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[tunnie]

off topic - cem - can you adjust your avatar a bit, it keeps cutting into your posts

[cem_devecioglu]

off topic - cem - can you adjust your avatar a bit, it keeps cutting into your posts

ok will arrange now

[jimbobmccoy]

if your gonig to be running exchange on the server i would consider windows mobile devices instead of the blackberrys.
Will give similar syncing options and remote management/wipe, but without the expense and hassle of a bes license.

Also, i believe BES can be quite resource hungry, which is never good if your trying to keep everything as simple as possible.

[Jay w]

if your gonig to be running exchange on the server i would consider windows mobile devices instead of the blackberrys.
Will give similar syncing options and remote management/wipe, but without the expense and hassle of a bes license.

Also, i believe BES can be quite resource hungry, which is never good if your trying to keep everything as simple as possible.

Having had a load of windows devices i hate them with a passion, got tired of the poor performance and constant locking up and resetting.

I had an iphone as well, crap battery life, the blackberry is about the best of all the devices i have owned and i will admit this has some issues but does seem to be more business oriented that the windows stuff.

hear what you are saying about the resource issues with BES, but if i know that before heading into the build then i can plan for that and possible put more memory in to allow BES to run freely

Other thing to remember, my primary machines are Mac machines.......now what sort of issues could that pose?

I am running Office Mac 2008 so MS/Mac file compatability is not an issue

[cem_devecioglu]

if your gonig to be running exchange on the server i would consider windows mobile devices instead of the blackberrys.
Will give similar syncing options and remote management/wipe, but without the expense and hassle of a bes license.

Also, i believe BES can be quite resource hungry, which is never good if your trying to keep everything as simple as possible.

Having had a load of windows devices i hate them with a passion, got tired of the poor performance and constant locking up and resetting.

I had an iphone as well, crap battery life, the blackberry is about the best of all the devices i have owned and i will admit this has some issues but does seem to be more business oriented that the windows stuff.

hear what you are saying about the resource issues with BES, but if i know that before heading into the build then i can plan for that and possible put more memory in to allow BES to run freely

Other thing to remember, my primary machines are Mac machines.......now what sort of issues could that pose?

I am running Office Mac 2008 so MS/Mac file compatability is not an issue

no idea about Mac 's ..havent used them for centuries.. :-/

[TheBoy]

Sounds like a small server would do you well.  Sounds like you are going for windoze if you need exchange.  Possibly worth going for a version with AD for more centralised management, though GPO etc will only work on Win machines.

if planning on exchange 2007, you will need 64bit windows, and thus 64bit hardware.  exchange 2003 is 32bit.  although you can get mail to mostly work using dynamic IP, a static is better/more reliable.

Using a P4 as a 24/7 server may hit you leccy bill - p4 class pcs are not built to be energy aware, unlike modern c2d/c2q processor'd pcs.

Alternatively, if you need bes, host email at gmail (they can now do your domain), as iirc they have a freebie bes server.

If you want to discuss, let me know, I have done a fair few similar setups.

[TheBoy]

if your gonig to be running exchange on the server i would consider windows mobile devices instead of the blackberrys.
Will give similar syncing options and remote management/wipe, but without the expense and hassle of a bes license.

Also, i believe BES can be quite resource hungry, which is never good if your trying to keep everything as simple as possible.

Having had a load of windows devices i hate them with a passion, got tired of the poor performance and constant locking up and resetting.

I had an iphone as well, crap battery life, the blackberry is about the best of all the devices i have owned and i will admit this has some issues but does seem to be more business oriented that the windows stuff.

hear what you are saying about the resource issues with BES, but if i know that before heading into the build then i can plan for that and possible put more memory in to allow BES to run freely

Other thing to remember, my primary machines are Mac machines.......now what sort of issues could that pose?

I am running Office Mac 2008 so MS/Mac file compatability is not an issue

my current windows device is an old htc with slide out keyboard. can't remember last time i had to restart it.  they are better than they used to be, and for exchange sync, cannot be beaten.

[Leomas]

Just to throw into the pot, I run BES on my Lotus Notes server which is an OK box but not too dramatic and I doubt it is pushing more than 40% utilisation. Has 8 mail accounts, 4 of which have a BB associated and also has a small website so I would say BES is not at all resource hungry

[bikers1]

I run a bes on a dual core xeon with 2gb of ram and run 600 Blackberries off it into groupwise, it barely breaks a sweat.

IMO, Windows Mobile devices are toys in comparison to BB's

Do you 'really' need exchange ?

otherwise get one of your unused towers bung Suse Linux  Enterprise server 10sp2, run samba and webmin and you've got a great fileserver without paying microshaft it's ludricous licencing costs or having exchange cripple your server.

btw bes licences are about £75 a piece, but you may get some free if you speak to your supplier, I got loads free.