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[Bandit127]

The keeping of innocent people's DNA has been ruled a violation of our human rights.

Good. In my opinion, this was never right and one of the areas that the government has exceeded it's authority.

Liberty Director Shami Chakrabarti said: "This is one of the most strongly worded judgements that Liberty has ever seen from the Court of Human Rights..."
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[theolodian]

I agree completely.  

[Martin_1962]

ID Cards next?

NIR Next?

Wacquy Jacquy next

[Dusty]

Yes ..a good result.

[STMO123]

I agree to a point. But I also think that if a child was murdered, and then the killer went on to commit further offences, and it turned out his DNA was on the database and deleted.............

As is usual in these things, it's a difficult balance to strike.

[theolodian]

I agree to a point. But I also think that if a child was murdered, and then the killer went on to commit further offences, and it turned out his DNA was on the database and deleted.............

As is usual in these things, it's a difficult balance to strike.

No, it is really easy.  Arrested and released you should have the same rights as never arrested.  Innocent until proven guilty, at least that is the ideal where I'm from (not that they get it right there either).

[STMO123]

I agree to a point. But I also think that if a child was murdered, and then the killer went on to commit further offences, and it turned out his DNA was on the database and deleted.............

As is usual in these things, it's a difficult balance to strike.

No, it is really easy.  Arrested and released you should have the same rights as never arrested.  Innocent until proven guilty, at least that is the ideal where I'm from (not that they get it right there either).

Hmmm....I was talking about your lot last night with reference to the arrest of MP Green.

I said that if they searched his office without a warrant in America, some smartass lawyer would take it to a judge and, as they say on 'Law and Order'..It's out!!!

[albitz]

Watch them try to squirm their way out of it.  

[theolodian]

I agree to a point. But I also think that if a child was murdered, and then the killer went on to commit further offences, and it turned out his DNA was on the database and deleted.............

As is usual in these things, it's a difficult balance to strike.

No, it is really easy.  Arrested and released you should have the same rights as never arrested.  Innocent until proven guilty, at least that is the ideal where I'm from (not that they get it right there either).

Hmmm....I was talking about your lot last night with reference to the arrest of MP Green.

I said that if they searched his office without a warrant in America, some smartass lawyer would take it to a judge and, as they say on 'Law and Order'..It's out!!!

I think that reality does not quite match up to the TV shows.  

Warrantless searches are a big no-no over there though, the whole case goes out the window!  And people make sure to ask for a warrant.  

[albitz]

When Gorbals Mick made his speech yesterday,he said that although he knew about the search of the offices in advance ,he didnt know that they didnt have a warrant.Apparently it didnt occur to him to ask .

[Peter H]

I think we should all carry papers, and have speed limiters on our cars.  The Government should run all news agencies to keep morale up and why bother with elections that no-one votes in anyway.

Human rights are highly overrated, as long as the cattle trucks roll nowhere near me thats okay.




I hope you all realise that my tongue is firmly in my cheek!

[Entwood]

I believe EVERYONE should be on the DNA database from birth. No innocent person has anything to fear from such a database.

My DNA has been voluntarily on a database for over 20 years in case of a "military mishap".

If scrotes knew ... really, really, knew... that they had an exceedingly high risk of being identified by DNA, many would think twice about what they do.. for example .... it would instantly negate the "hoody" culture.

[albitz]

And also instantly negate any pretence of a free society, its the lesser of two evils scenario imo.
The argument that the innocent have nothing to fear only stands up if the current and future governments are all perfect/honest well intentioned/trustworthy as they are the lawmakers,and as we all know their version of right/wrong innocent/guilty very often bears no relation to justice.

[webby23]

I am a strong believer in the 'Aint done anything so aint got anything to worry about' train of thought

Things like this help to protect the innocent, so it is only the guilty that should be worried, and that to me, is what it is all about??

[Entwood]

The "Free Society" is a myth ... you are NOT free to murder, steal, park where you want, drive how you want etc etc etc ...

You are free to ACT WITHIN THE LAW - so the dna database places no restrictions on your behaviour at all, and does NOT make you any "less" free, It just means you have more chance of being caught should you break the law.

What is so wrong with that ?? unless you are a lawbreaker