Omega Owners Forum

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  

News:

Please check the Forum Guidelines at the top of the Newbie section

Pages: [1] 2 3 4 5 6 7 8   Go Down

Author Topic: i have never been so scared doing 65mph before....  (Read 7084 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

tunnie

  • Get A Life!!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Surrey
  • Posts: 37593
    • Zafira Tourer & BMW 435i
    • View Profile
i have never been so scared doing 65mph before....
« on: 03 January 2009, 17:22:12 »
had a cracking first day on the bike stuff, spent the morning on a 125cc again getting used to it, did turn in the roads (which i still had trouble with) emergency stops and all the usual stuff.

Then about 11, it was on to the big 500 cc bikes  8-)

Straight away i found them much easier, more feel with everything, clutch was not so soggy actually could feel something, same with rear brake.

First time out i was a nervous wreck, feked up gear changes and bunny hopping it.

But after 2 hours, had nailed it, smooth away from the lines, slipping clutch in corners to control the speed.

Best bit of it all, is the turns in the road i found easier on the bigger bike!  :o

Straight away did it spot on, time and time again, found it so much easier. Pulled onto some dual carriageway and the instructor said to open her up, reved it to about 7k rpm, and went from about 30 ish to 65 almost instantly, fek me did that feel fast!  :)

Only downside, i had to buy some new bigger trousers, on the bike ones i bought were too small, but rest of the gear worked great, other people learning were frozen solid by the end of the day, i was just nice and snug! Could have stayed out there allllllll day!
« Last Edit: 03 January 2009, 17:22:34 by tunnie »
Logged

Andy B

  • Get A Life!!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Bury Lancs
  • Posts: 39813
    • ML350 TDM SmartRoadster
    • View Profile
Re: i have never been so scared doing 65mph before....
« Reply #1 on: 03 January 2009, 17:54:58 »
Quote
.......
slipping clutch in corners to control the speed. ......

 :-? Is that something you've been taught? Just sounds strange to me. :-/
Logged

tunnie

  • Get A Life!!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Surrey
  • Posts: 37593
    • Zafira Tourer & BMW 435i
    • View Profile
Re: i have never been so scared doing 65mph before....
« Reply #2 on: 03 January 2009, 18:02:29 »
Quote
Quote
.......
slipping clutch in corners to control the speed. ......

 :-? Is that something you've been taught? Just sounds strange to me. :-/

Yup, slow speed corners, junctions ect, ride the back brake, on the clutch biting point / slipping point and keep the engine revs 'busy' (around 3k rpm)

Logged

Turk

  • Omega Baron
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Llanelli, Wales
  • Posts: 4029
    • 2.5td, H-D XL1200
    • View Profile
Re: i have never been so scared doing 65mph before....
« Reply #3 on: 03 January 2009, 18:05:37 »
Same here. Not heard of slipping the clutch to control speed.  :o  
Logged
Only a biker truly understands why a dog sticks it's head out of the window of a moving car.

Vamps

  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Bishop Middleham, Co Durham.
  • Posts: 24708
  • Flying Tonight, so Be Prepared.
    • Mig 2.6CDX and 2.2 Honda
    • View Profile
Re: i have never been so scared doing 65mph before....
« Reply #4 on: 03 January 2009, 18:07:00 »
Quote
Quote
.......
slipping clutch in corners to control the speed. ......

 :-? Is that something you've been taught? Just sounds strange to
me. :-/

And me, and also 7k RPM and only 65mph, where you in second gear ::) ::) ::)
Logged

tunnie

  • Get A Life!!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Surrey
  • Posts: 37593
    • Zafira Tourer & BMW 435i
    • View Profile
Re: i have never been so scared doing 65mph before....
« Reply #5 on: 03 January 2009, 18:13:12 »
Quote
Quote
Quote
.......
slipping clutch in corners to control the speed. ......

 :-? Is that something you've been taught? Just sounds strange to
me. :-/

And me, and also 7k RPM and only 65mph, where you in second gear ::) ::) ::)

yup, pulled out into second, then was asked to give it large, so i did!

Spent about 4 hours slipping the clutch, turn in the road especially, slipping it, keeping revs up, in total control, if bike starts to lean or something just let the clutch out 1mm.

I could turn the ER5 within a standard width road easily now in one turn, feet off the ground.
Logged

Turk

  • Omega Baron
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Llanelli, Wales
  • Posts: 4029
    • 2.5td, H-D XL1200
    • View Profile
Re: i have never been so scared doing 65mph before....
« Reply #6 on: 03 January 2009, 18:19:27 »
Ah right. It's probably better described as riding or feathering the clutch. Same applies when riding at walking pace.  

Not sure I like the idea of new riders being told to "keep the revs busy" unless the instructor keeps it for riders he/she is happy with as regards clutch control.
Get that wrong and you're in the next post code before you know it.  ;D  

Glad to hear keeping at it.  Fair doos to anyone that passes their bike test these days. It's so complicated, I work in the bike industry and I haven't a clue as to what exactly the test comprises of nowadays.
Logged
Only a biker truly understands why a dog sticks it's head out of the window of a moving car.

Andy B

  • Get A Life!!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Bury Lancs
  • Posts: 39813
    • ML350 TDM SmartRoadster
    • View Profile
Re: i have never been so scared doing 65mph before....
« Reply #7 on: 03 January 2009, 18:21:14 »
Quote
.....
 and I haven't a clue as to what exactly the test comprises of nowadays.

it's not just a figure 8 around the block anymore .... so they say :y  :y  :y
Logged

Ian_D

  • Omega Baron
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • York
  • Posts: 2432
    • View Profile
Re: i have never been so scared doing 65mph before....
« Reply #8 on: 03 January 2009, 18:21:39 »
I know nothing about bikes, but slipping the clutch sounds odd to me?

When you say this, are you slipping the clutch in 1st - going really slow... or slipping the clutch in say 2nd or 3rd? If that was the case, I would have said you needed to change down a gear before the corner so you dont have to slip it? But like I said, I havn't a clue about bikes.  ::)

Maybe the instructors good mates with a repair shop that just replace clutches all day long?  :o
Logged
[size=12]
LMF are utter rubbish - dont buy steering idlers from them! You've been warned![/size]

tunnie

  • Get A Life!!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Surrey
  • Posts: 37593
    • Zafira Tourer & BMW 435i
    • View Profile
Re: i have never been so scared doing 65mph before....
« Reply #9 on: 03 January 2009, 18:23:56 »
first off there is theory.... 50 questions multiple choice, i got 48 right  :) (pass rate is 43)

Then hazard perception of theory watch 14 video clips, each has 1 danger in it, 1 has 2. You have to click when you see a danger could develop, 5 points per danger, they count down the closer to the danger, often faster than seconds.

I got 64 out of 75.

Then its the practical, will be asked to do emergency stop and turn in the road. Maybe asked for hill start, angled start, maybe asked questions about your bike and asked to wheel it around. Test is about 50 mins long.

 :y
Logged

tunnie

  • Get A Life!!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Surrey
  • Posts: 37593
    • Zafira Tourer & BMW 435i
    • View Profile
Re: i have never been so scared doing 65mph before....
« Reply #10 on: 03 January 2009, 18:25:35 »
Quote
I know nothing about bikes, but slipping the clutch sounds odd to me?

When you say this, are you slipping the clutch in 1st - going really slow... or slipping the clutch in say 2nd or 3rd? If that was the case, I would have said you needed to change down a gear before the corner so you dont have to slip it? But like I said, I havn't a clue about bikes.  ::)

Maybe the instructors good mates with a repair shop that just replace clutches all day long?  :o

Motorbike clutches are designed to be slipped, generally done in 1,2,3 gears, and its just like the biting point in the car. But unlike a car, you ride it, while holding the rear back brake, was doing that in figure of 8's and turn in the road, and pulling away from junctions.

Engine 'busy' means around 3.0 - 3.5k rpm revs wise.
« Last Edit: 03 January 2009, 18:25:43 by tunnie »
Logged

TheBoy

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Brackley, Northants
  • Posts: 107169
  • I Like Lockdown
    • Whatever Starts
    • View Profile
Re: i have never been so scared doing 65mph before....
« Reply #11 on: 03 January 2009, 18:25:53 »
ER5, although fairly torquey like most 500 twins, doesn't liven up until 6k rpm.  Low redline of about 10k IIRC.

I think tunnie means feathering the clutch, as you do on slow speed manuevers such as mini roundabouts - often with a bit of rear brake if you need stability.


Tunnie, if ever you go on my bike, do NOT drop it to 2nd and floor it - I reckon you'd be dead within 5s ;D

More tomorrow?
Logged
Grumpy old man

tunnie

  • Get A Life!!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Surrey
  • Posts: 37593
    • Zafira Tourer & BMW 435i
    • View Profile
Re: i have never been so scared doing 65mph before....
« Reply #12 on: 03 January 2009, 18:29:42 »
Quote
ER5, although fairly torquey like most 500 twins, doesn't liven up until 6k rpm.  Low redline of about 10k IIRC.

I think tunnie means feathering the clutch, as you do on slow speed manuevers such as mini roundabouts - often with a bit of rear brake if you need stability.


Tunnie, if ever you go on my bike, do NOT drop it to 2nd and floor it - I reckon you'd be dead within 5s ;D

More tomorrow?

Yeah, nothing but manoeuvrings tomorrow.

I am feeling better about the turn in the road, carpark i had trouble with them on 125, found it easier on the ER5!

I could do it at the top of the car park, when i had a curb to look at, always fcked up the bottom one (nothing to fix on)

Out on the road, i looked where i had to put the bike and it went there, was really chuffed about that cause i was finding them hard in the car park.  
Logged

Andy B

  • Get A Life!!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Bury Lancs
  • Posts: 39813
    • ML350 TDM SmartRoadster
    • View Profile
Re: i have never been so scared doing 65mph before....
« Reply #13 on: 03 January 2009, 18:30:15 »
Quote
......
Motorbike clutches are designed to be slipped, ......

 :-?  :-?  :-? Generally wet basket rather than a car's dry, but does that mean that they're designed to be slipped?
Logged

Vamps

  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Bishop Middleham, Co Durham.
  • Posts: 24708
  • Flying Tonight, so Be Prepared.
    • Mig 2.6CDX and 2.2 Honda
    • View Profile
Re: i have never been so scared doing 65mph before....
« Reply #14 on: 03 January 2009, 18:30:19 »
Quote
Quote
.....
 and I haven't a clue as to what exactly the test comprises of nowadays.

it's not just a figure 8 around the block anymore .... so they say :y  :y  :y

Was in my day...... :y :y :y
Logged
Pages: [1] 2 3 4 5 6 7 8   Go Up
« previous next »
 

Page created in 0.014 seconds with 17 queries.