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[Martin_1962]

OK want the following

Freesat operation Freeview operation.

Able to record two freesat HD channels at once, output via HDMI

I have no idea where to start

Thanks

[zirk]

OK want the following

Freesat operation Freeview operation.

Able to record two freesat HD channels at once, output via HDMI

I have no idea where to start

Thanks

Try this (not PC based Thou) does have HDMI thou!
http://www.parabolic.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=360&osCsid=83de2

[Plomien]

If you want it in your PC then try here http://www.scan.co.uk/Index.aspx?NT=1-0-33-307-0  

[Martin_1962]

OK want the following

Freesat operation Freeview operation.

Able to record two freesat HD channels at once, output via HDMI

I have no idea where to start

Thanks

Try this (not PC based Thou) does have HDMI thou!
http://www.parabolic.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=360&osCsid=83de2

Too unreliable - keeps forgetting to record, hence planning a PC solution

[TheBoy]

OK want the following

Freesat operation Freeview operation.

Able to record two freesat HD channels at once, output via HDMI

I have no idea where to start

Thanks

You know me, MCE (actually VMC) every time.

Not come across a twin HD Sat card yet, so will need 2 cards for 2 sat tuners.  A couple of twin DVB-T cards about.

VMC will need TV Pack 2008 to get multiple technologies working together, which is OEM only, or a download for Ultimate users. TV Pack allows up to 4 tuners (up from 2 in standard MCE/VMC - though a tedious registry job can increase this).

Not having HD Sat here, I can't say specs needed.  I was able to run 6 freeview tuners under XP MCE on my 3.2G P4, 1G RAM without issue.  Had to drop to 5 tuners when I went Vista (and add another 1G!), as I needed a better video card that took 2 slots.  Mrs TheBoy's brother runs a single sat tuner and a freeview twin tuner in his VMC, similar spec to mine.

Many video cards have HDMI output, picking the audio up off the SPD/IF header on mobo.  Unlike most HDMI devices, however, it will not automatically flick the TV to that input (thankfully!), which he may find a pain.


Specs for mine are
3.2G P4
915 chipset mobo from FIC (not that I would ever recommend them!)
MSI 8500GT video, with DVI/VGA/HDMI
2G RAM
1Tb Samsung Spinpoint F1 HDD
Vista Home Premium
2 x Hauppauge Nova 500DT twin tuners
1 x Hauppauge Nova-T single tuner
Cat5'd


I wouldn't get too hung up on HD at the moment though, MCE/VMC is a bloody good upscaler...


The downside of MCE/VMC is that it really needs to be a dedicated PC - throwing loads of shite on it leads to instabilities.  Remember, this thing is on (or in S3 standby (a difficult state for machines filled with crap)) 24/7

[Martin_1962]

I have seen HD - main reason I got Freesat - BBC HD is stunning compared to upscaled SD.

Anyway if I get a nice email from Humax it may not be necessary.

I am getting really grumpy with people at the moment, current poo list is Calor and Homebase, with Humax getting very close.

[TheBoy]

I have seen HD - main reason I got Freesat - BBC HD is stunning compared to upscaled SD.

Anyway if I get a nice email from Humax it may not be necessary.

I am getting really grumpy with people at the moment, current poo list is Calor and Homebase, with Humax getting very close.

If BBC HD via freesat is the same as BBC HD via Sky, I was not that impressed.  Sure, it was slightly better quality than MCE upscaled SD, but not particularly noticable, certainly not worth the effort of me getting a ladder out to fit a dish.  Mind you, was on a Sony LCD that I saw it, so may be doing it an injustice  

[TheBoy]

If it was for you, you should have said when you were over last week. I could have given you a demo

[Martin_1962]

I have seen HD - main reason I got Freesat - BBC HD is stunning compared to upscaled SD.

Anyway if I get a nice email from Humax it may not be necessary.

I am getting really grumpy with people at the moment, current poo list is Calor and Homebase, with Humax getting very close.

If BBC HD via freesat is the same as BBC HD via Sky, I was not that impressed.  Sure, it was slightly better quality than MCE upscaled SD, but not particularly noticable, certainly not worth the effort of me getting a ladder out to fit a dish.  Mind you, was on a Sony LCD that I saw it, so may be doing it an injustice  

Probably not set up properly - I have 1 to 1 pixel mapping set up on all HDMI sources.

[Martin_1962]

If it was for you, you should have said when you were over last week. I could have given you a demo

Only just thought of it, Freesat HD is new, and so far there are PVRs unable to use Freesat EPG (PITAs to set timers), knobbled pay TV boxes which cannot use ITV HD and make the Humax seem reliable, and the Humax.

As my other postings - I am now getting rattier with things and complain more.

[Martin_1962]

I have seen HD - main reason I got Freesat - BBC HD is stunning compared to upscaled SD.

Anyway if I get a nice email from Humax it may not be necessary.

I am getting really grumpy with people at the moment, current poo list is Calor and Homebase, with Humax getting very close.

If BBC HD via freesat is the same as BBC HD via Sky, I was not that impressed.  Sure, it was slightly better quality than MCE upscaled SD, but not particularly noticable, certainly not worth the effort of me getting a ladder out to fit a dish.  Mind you, was on a Sony LCD that I saw it, so may be doing it an injustice  

Probably not set up properly - I have 1 to 1 pixel mapping set up on all HDMI sources.

Or it wasn't a 1080p panel, but 720p

720p don't seem much better than SD, huge difference with a properly set up 1080p TV

[TheBoy]

If it was for you, you should have said when you were over last week. I could have given you a demo

Only just thought of it, Freesat HD is new, and so far there are PVRs unable to use Freesat EPG (PITAs to set timers), knobbled pay TV boxes which cannot use ITV HD and make the Humax seem reliable, and the Humax.

As my other postings - I am now getting rattier with things and complain more.

MCE/VMC uses guides downloaded from a MS partner from the web, thus needs an internet connection (wifi is fine for this) - that may be a fundamental flaw for you.

If you wish to access from other PCs (via Media Player) or Extenders (via their MCE interface), wifi may not have capacity, so may need cat5.

[TheBoy]

I have seen HD - main reason I got Freesat - BBC HD is stunning compared to upscaled SD.

Anyway if I get a nice email from Humax it may not be necessary.

I am getting really grumpy with people at the moment, current poo list is Calor and Homebase, with Humax getting very close.

If BBC HD via freesat is the same as BBC HD via Sky, I was not that impressed.  Sure, it was slightly better quality than MCE upscaled SD, but not particularly noticable, certainly not worth the effort of me getting a ladder out to fit a dish.  Mind you, was on a Sony LCD that I saw it, so may be doing it an injustice  

Probably not set up properly - I have 1 to 1 pixel mapping set up on all HDMI sources.

Or it wasn't a 1080p panel, but 720p

720p don't seem much better than SD, huge difference with a properly set up 1080p TV

Bloody great 50ish inch, so guess it was 1080p.  No idea what Sky broadcast at though.

[Martin_1962]

If it was for you, you should have said when you were over last week. I could have given you a demo

Only just thought of it, Freesat HD is new, and so far there are PVRs unable to use Freesat EPG (PITAs to set timers), knobbled pay TV boxes which cannot use ITV HD and make the Humax seem reliable, and the Humax.

As my other postings - I am now getting rattier with things and complain more.

MCE/VMC uses guides downloaded from a MS partner from the web, thus needs an internet connection (wifi is fine for this) - that may be a fundamental flaw for you.

If you wish to access from other PCs (via Media Player) or Extenders (via their MCE interface), wifi may not have capacity, so may need cat5.

I know WiFi doesn't have the capacity, no problem with using CAT 5 though.

I'll give Humax a week to work out what is wrong with the HDR

[Martin_1962]

I have seen HD - main reason I got Freesat - BBC HD is stunning compared to upscaled SD.

Anyway if I get a nice email from Humax it may not be necessary.

I am getting really grumpy with people at the moment, current poo list is Calor and Homebase, with Humax getting very close.

If BBC HD via freesat is the same as BBC HD via Sky, I was not that impressed.  Sure, it was slightly better quality than MCE upscaled SD, but not particularly noticable, certainly not worth the effort of me getting a ladder out to fit a dish.  Mind you, was on a Sony LCD that I saw it, so may be doing it an injustice  

Probably not set up properly - I have 1 to 1 pixel mapping set up on all HDMI sources.

Or it wasn't a 1080p panel, but 720p

720p don't seem much better than SD, huge difference with a properly set up 1080p TV

Bloody great 50ish inch, so guess it was 1080p.  No idea what Sky broadcast at though.

Any model numbers?