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[TheBoy]

I have seen HD - main reason I got Freesat - BBC HD is stunning compared to upscaled SD.

Anyway if I get a nice email from Humax it may not be necessary.

I am getting really grumpy with people at the moment, current poo list is Calor and Homebase, with Humax getting very close.

If BBC HD via freesat is the same as BBC HD via Sky, I was not that impressed.  Sure, it was slightly better quality than MCE upscaled SD, but not particularly noticable, certainly not worth the effort of me getting a ladder out to fit a dish.  Mind you, was on a Sony LCD that I saw it, so may be doing it an injustice  

Probably not set up properly - I have 1 to 1 pixel mapping set up on all HDMI sources.

Or it wasn't a 1080p panel, but 720p

720p don't seem much better than SD, huge difference with a properly set up 1080p TV

Bloody great 50ish inch, so guess it was 1080p.  No idea what Sky broadcast at though.

Any model numbers?

Sky HD - no idea, just think its called Sky HD  :-/
Telly - supposedly top of range W...

[Martin_1962]

I have seen HD - main reason I got Freesat - BBC HD is stunning compared to upscaled SD.

Anyway if I get a nice email from Humax it may not be necessary.

I am getting really grumpy with people at the moment, current poo list is Calor and Homebase, with Humax getting very close.

If BBC HD via freesat is the same as BBC HD via Sky, I was not that impressed.  Sure, it was slightly better quality than MCE upscaled SD, but not particularly noticable, certainly not worth the effort of me getting a ladder out to fit a dish.  Mind you, was on a Sony LCD that I saw it, so may be doing it an injustice  

Probably not set up properly - I have 1 to 1 pixel mapping set up on all HDMI sources.

Or it wasn't a 1080p panel, but 720p

720p don't seem much better than SD, huge difference with a properly set up 1080p TV

Bloody great 50ish inch, so guess it was 1080p.  No idea what Sky broadcast at though.

Any model numbers?

Sky HD - no idea, just think its called Sky HD  :-/
Telly - supposedly top of range W...

Mine is W4500 but the difference is quite obvious, sound like setup or Sky box, was it BBC HD?

[TheBoy]

I have seen HD - main reason I got Freesat - BBC HD is stunning compared to upscaled SD.

Anyway if I get a nice email from Humax it may not be necessary.

I am getting really grumpy with people at the moment, current poo list is Calor and Homebase, with Humax getting very close.

If BBC HD via freesat is the same as BBC HD via Sky, I was not that impressed.  Sure, it was slightly better quality than MCE upscaled SD, but not particularly noticable, certainly not worth the effort of me getting a ladder out to fit a dish.  Mind you, was on a Sony LCD that I saw it, so may be doing it an injustice  

Probably not set up properly - I have 1 to 1 pixel mapping set up on all HDMI sources.

Or it wasn't a 1080p panel, but 720p

720p don't seem much better than SD, huge difference with a properly set up 1080p TV

Bloody great 50ish inch, so guess it was 1080p.  No idea what Sky broadcast at though.

Any model numbers?

Sky HD - no idea, just think its called Sky HD  :-/
Telly - supposedly top of range W...

Mine is W4500 but the difference is quite obvious, sound like setup or Sky box, was it BBC HD?

Yup, he was showing it off to me. It was a million times better than SD sources.  But not better enough than MCE upscaled SD to warrant me spending £150 on a dish and a couple of tuners...

[Martin_1962]

I now have the dish and cables - will play be ear

[TheBoy]

I now have the dish and cables - will play be ear

Do you have everything you need to build a MCE, even if only freeview? Even if only connected to monitor for now?  ie, just something to see if it does what you need.

I can probably lend you a single DVB-T tuner, a usb ir receiver, not sure about remote as I've mislaid my spare (think it went off with xbox last time I lent that out, and that came back damaged  ).

Just if you can get a trial of Vista Home Premium (MS do 120 day trials of server stuff, not sure about desktop OS).

[CaptainZok]

Not come across a twin HD Sat card yet, so will need 2 cards for 2 sat tuners.  A couple of twin DVB-T cards about.

How about one of these?

[TheBoy]

Not come across a twin HD Sat card yet, so will need 2 cards for 2 sat tuners.  A couple of twin DVB-T cards about.

How about one of these?

Blackgold didn't have anything last time I looked, though I was looking at PCI last time (no PCIe slots in my mobo )

[TheBoy]

Not come across a twin HD Sat card yet, so will need 2 cards for 2 sat tuners.  A couple of twin DVB-T cards about.

How about one of these?

Captain, you may now have to find me a new mobo - that is exactly the device I have been looking for

[CaptainZok]

Not come across a twin HD Sat card yet, so will need 2 cards for 2 sat tuners.  A couple of twin DVB-T cards about.

How about one of these?

Captain, you may now have to find me a new mobo - that is exactly the device I have been looking for

Is freesat worth "persuading" the student up a ladder for though?

[TheBoy]

Not come across a twin HD Sat card yet, so will need 2 cards for 2 sat tuners.  A couple of twin DVB-T cards about.

How about one of these?

Captain, you may now have to find me a new mobo - that is exactly the device I have been looking for

Is freesat worth "persuading" the student up a ladder for though?

Some jobs are simply just best done yourself

[CaptainZok]

Not come across a twin HD Sat card yet, so will need 2 cards for 2 sat tuners.  A couple of twin DVB-T cards about.

How about one of these?

Captain, you may now have to find me a new mobo - that is exactly the device I have been looking for

Is freesat worth "persuading" the student up a ladder for though?

Some jobs are simply just best done yourself

Hmmm got a sky dish on the wall already, quad LNB and 3 cables run down the wall. That would keep the Gnome out of mischief for an afternoon.

[Martin_1962]

Very interesting card

Tempted to rebuild the P4 2.4 and see what happens

[CaptainZok]

Very interesting card

Tempted to rebuild the P4 2.4 and see what happens

Scan have it listed at £108 wonder if we can find it cheaper?

[TheBoy]

Very interesting card

Tempted to rebuild the P4 2.4 and see what happens

2.4G may run out of steam for twin HD.

Another thing that I was reminded of when reading about that card - VMC has no support for the HD 264.1 codec used by HD, and for some reason just adding the ffdshow codec (only extra codec I install) which does support 264, does not enable it.  Apparently the TV Pack 2008 is supposed to enable it, but I have no way of testing currently.  Suggest you have a look at avforums, or better for media centre, The Green Button site http://thegreenbutton.com/default.aspx

[CaptainZok]

Very interesting card

Tempted to rebuild the P4 2.4 and see what happens

2.4G may run out of steam for twin HD.

Another thing that I was reminded of when reading about that card - VMC has no support for the HD 264.1 codec used by HD, and for some reason just adding the ffdshow codec (only extra codec I install) which does support 264, does not enable it.  Apparently the TV Pack 2008 is supposed to enable it, but I have no way of testing currently.  Suggest you have a look at avforums, or better for media centre, The Green Button site http://thegreenbutton.com/default.aspx

From what I've read on Green Button, BBC HD works with the TV pack but ITV HD won't show pictures. I think there's a hacked dll from the beta which will enable it though.