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[character]

Hello All

Just a friendly post to the member of your club I happened to come across this afternoon, silver omega estate with white "oemga owners club" sticker in the rear window towing a met gold omega saloon.

Whilst I appreciate that there are occassions where a vehicle enthusiast may wish to help another fellow member or feeling that he or she knows what they are doing perhaps this particular member may wish to think before he embarks upon a journey of illegality and of course potentially put his life or that of other road users at risk. I am sad to report such an incident this afternoon whilst displaying the good name of your club in the rear window.

The silver omega was pulling what seemed to be a decent omega saloon, however on an A frame (specifically allowed only for the removal of disabled vehicles from IMMEDIATE DANGER), the chap had placed two rear brake/tail lights run off a power feed from the towing vehicle, not a problem apart from the fact that the o/s was not working, THERE WERE NO INDICATORS fitted next to the part functioning rear tail lights, the law also says that ANY TOWING VEHICLE must display the number plate of the pulling vehicle, hence why recovery guys use a light bar with lights, the towing vehicle HAD NO REAR INDICATORS fitted to the car being towed, the offending vehicles were travelling at a slower speed than the normal traffic speed and thus HAS TO HAVE A BEACON FLASHING,(not hazard warning lights as that causes confusion to other motorists).

Given this rank amateurish and dam right illegal approach it begs the question whether he had the appropriate insurance cover for towing another vehicle (probably not), and if doing this act for some form of financial reward, whether he had a tachograph fitted to the towing vehicle.

If this is you and your happily reading this thread thinking you complete *******, let me just say I have posted this as a public flogging in order to save you from 6 points on your licence, impounding of your rather nice omega saloon and around £2-3000 fine from VOSA should there have been any money or the potential for money to be gifted by the recipient of the nice shinny gold omega.

Consider yourself flogged and just think before you do these things on the public highway.  

[Ian_D]

Hmmm.. I know who that is...

I will tell him

Edited: Decided its best not to stir!

[Darth Loo-knee]

Love a public spanking  

[PaulW]

Love a public spanking  

You would  

[albitz]

Does anyone know how to spell supercilious - unrelated of course.

[Markie]

Hello and welcome to the forum.

Be sure to post in the newbies section where you`ll get a warm welcome from some of the regulars  

[Darth Loo-knee]

Does anyone know how to spell supercilious - unrelated of course.

Thats a rather condescending thing to say Albs  

[The Red Baron]

Hello and welcome to the forum.

Be sure to post in the newbies section where you`ll get a warm welcome from from some of the regulars  

or maybe not.  

[albitz]

Thought I may as well join in.

[Vamps]

Hello All

Just a friendly post to the member of your club I happened to come across this afternoon, silver omega estate with white "oemga owners club" sticker in the rear window towing a met gold omega saloon.

Whilst I appreciate that there are occassions where a vehicle enthusiast may wish to help another fellow member or feeling that he or she knows what they are doing perhaps this particular member may wish to think before he embarks upon a journey of illegality and of course potentially put his life or that of other road users at risk. I am sad to report such an incident this afternoon whilst displaying the good name of your club in the rear window.

The silver omega was pulling what seemed to be a decent omega saloon, however on an A frame (specifically allowed only for the removal of disabled vehicles from IMMEDIATE DANGER), the chap had placed two rear brake/tail lights run off a power feed from the towing vehicle, not a problem apart from the fact that the o/s was not working, THERE WERE NO INDICATORS fitted next to the part functioning rear tail lights, the law also says that ANY TOWING VEHICLE must display the number plate of the pulling vehicle, hence why recovery guys use a light bar with lights, the towing vehicle HAD NO REAR INDICATORS fitted to the car being towed, the offending vehicles were travelling at a slower speed than the normal traffic speed and thus HAS TO HAVE A BEACON FLASHING,(not hazard warning lights as that causes confusion to other motorists).

Given this rank amateurish and dam right illegal approach it begs the question whether he had the appropriate insurance cover for towing another vehicle (probably not), and if doing this act for some form of financial reward, whether he had a tachograph fitted to the towing vehicle.

If this is you and your happily reading this thread thinking you complete *******, let me just say I have posted this as a public flogging in order to save you from 6 points on your licence, impounding of your rather nice omega saloon and around £2-3000 fine from VOSA should there have been any money or the potential for money to be gifted by the recipient of the nice shinny gold omega.

Consider yourself flogged and just think before you do these things on the public highway.  

Where do you get from, never seen a big camper A frames are used for towing long distance loads of times, I had a Landrover delivered from Cleveland to Hertfordshire, on an A fram and not orange light, and was being towed by a Landrover dealer using a series 1....... :-/

[Ian_D]

The silver omega was pulling what seemed to be a decent omega saloon, however on an A frame (specifically allowed only for the removal of disabled vehicles from IMMEDIATE DANGER), the chap had placed two rear brake/tail lights run off a power feed from the towing vehicle, not a problem apart from the fact that the o/s was not working, THERE WERE NO INDICATORS fitted next to the part functioning rear tail lights, the law also says that ANY TOWING VEHICLE must display the number plate of the pulling vehicle, hence why recovery guys use a light bar with lights, the towing vehicle HAD NO REAR INDICATORS fitted to the car being towed, the offending vehicles were travelling at a slower speed than the normal traffic speed and thus HAS TO HAVE A BEACON FLASHING,(not hazard warning lights as that causes confusion to other motorists).

That seems strange  :-/

[Nickbat]

Sorry, but I think it's fair for "character" to post the message. If what he says is true, then I would say the member is a pr*t for doing this on a motorway. We all know that a short distance tow along a minor road, whilst not strictly legal, could be deemed a bit naughty, but towing like this along a motorway is frankly downright dangerous.

One of our trucker members reported the other day how he had problems with a vehicle on the motorway and nearly had a big smash. If this vehicle had missing lights, no indicators and was travelling excessivley slowly then he was endangering other M-way users and is lucky to get away with a public flogging.  

Thank you "character". I also note your post was courteous, which is to be welcomed.  

[The Red Baron]

Have to agree with you Nickbat.  

[PaulW]

Just looked this up...

There is no need for a flashing beacon *AT ALL*
Limit on Motorways is 40mph when using a dollie, 20mph when not on motorway
Dollies are for recovery of of broken down vehicles, not for vehicle transportation

So, the fact they were slower means nothing.  The fact they do *NOT* require a flashing hazard beacon.

Also as to what is highlighted...

You say that its for removal of disabled vehicles from IMMEDIATE DANGER (see what I did there?? I did capitals like you), well your wrong...

RT legislation states...

The use of "dollies" is intended for the recovery of broken down vehicles, not for the transportation of a vehicle from "A" to "B".

Note... Recovery of Vehicle....  There is no set distance defined for the 'Recovery'.  If the vehicle is therefor unable to be driven due to being disabled, then going from the regs, it can be recovered perfectly normally.  There is no maximum permisable distance specified anywhere.  Also, as for moving from A to B, that is for vehicles *ONLY* which are 100% road legal and fit to drive.

If the car was being towed, that means its been bought as a breaker, which means its broken, disabled, unable to move under its own power.

[PaulW]

I agree with nickbat though in regards to the lighting, thats the only area of concern tbh.

But if you were on the motorway... how do you know the indicators were not working??