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Author Topic: Towing Illegally M4 West bound Junct 16 - 17  (Read 7988 times)

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Re: Towing Illegally M4 West bound Junct 16 - 17
« Reply #15 on: 11 January 2009, 23:44:39 »
Not sure you are right actually Paul... was told that on the motorway you needed a Dolly which raises the two front wheels...
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Re: Towing Illegally M4 West bound Junct 16 - 17
« Reply #16 on: 11 January 2009, 23:45:41 »
He said A Frame, not  towing dollies..........
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Re: Towing Illegally M4 West bound Junct 16 - 17
« Reply #17 on: 11 January 2009, 23:46:17 »
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Not sure you are right actually Paul... was told that on the motorway you needed a Dolly which raises the two front wheels...

Dollie is wheeled your right...

Ahwell, looks like I'm the one getting the spanking now next sunday  :-/
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Re: Towing Illegally M4 West bound Junct 16 - 17
« Reply #18 on: 11 January 2009, 23:46:53 »
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Have to agree with you Nickbat.  :y
Yes in some ways I can agree....

BUT, how do we know that the 'Gold Mig' hasn't broken down on the motorway and 'Mr Joe Bloggs' had helped recover the vehicle?   ::)
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Re: Towing Illegally M4 West bound Junct 16 - 17
« Reply #19 on: 11 January 2009, 23:47:34 »
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I agree with nickbat though in regards to the lighting, thats the only area of concern tbh.

But if you were on the motorway... how do you know the indicators were not working??[/quote]

Hazards on the towing vehicle, not operating on the towed vehicle.
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Re: Towing Illegally M4 West bound Junct 16 - 17
« Reply #20 on: 11 January 2009, 23:48:48 »
Rather interesting info Paul.
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Re: Towing Illegally M4 West bound Junct 16 - 17
« Reply #21 on: 11 January 2009, 23:49:11 »
Looked again...

A-frame is classed as unbraked traler, so MGW towing weight is 750kg... anything more is illegal
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Re: Towing Illegally M4 West bound Junct 16 - 17
« Reply #22 on: 11 January 2009, 23:50:00 »
So who was it anyway  :-X ;D

Own up, bend over and take yer flogging  :P
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Re: Towing Illegally M4 West bound Junct 16 - 17
« Reply #23 on: 11 January 2009, 23:50:08 »
Actually I would hazard a guess that "character" is traffic officer (not on duty at the time). My reasons?

1) Close attention to detail of the vehicles involved
2) Precise knowledge of fines/points involved
3) Use of technical terms

and finally...

4) A soft spot for Omegas.  ;) ;D
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Re: Towing Illegally M4 West bound Junct 16 - 17
« Reply #24 on: 11 January 2009, 23:50:37 »
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Have to agree with you Nickbat.  :y
Yes in some ways I can agree....

BUT, how do we know that the 'Gold Mig' hasn't broken down on the motorway and 'Mr Joe Bloggs' had helped recover the vehicle?   ::)
Yes i agree, i wonder who this character is ?.
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Re: Towing Illegally M4 West bound Junct 16 - 17
« Reply #25 on: 11 January 2009, 23:51:09 »
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Actually I would hazard a guess that "character" is traffic officer (not on duty at the time). My reasons?

1) Close attention to detail of the vehicles involved
2) Precise knowledge of fines/points involved
3) Use of technical terms

and finally...

4) A soft spot for Omegas.  ;) ;D

 :D :y
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Re: Towing Illegally M4 West bound Junct 16 - 17
« Reply #26 on: 11 January 2009, 23:51:36 »
cheers guys, sorry for dumping this on your forum but thought it would be more polite that ringing the rossers to get him pulled over.

Forgot to mention, lateish afternoon no lights or actually on the saloon omega, so me and an artic came upon him to see just one single 4inch x 4 inch tail light on the n/s rear, no "on tow" sign either.

Sorry to be a stickler, but I move vehicles around the country so I would like to think I know what I'm on about  :)

ps to the poster regards the difference between a dolly and A frame, dolly has the front end of the disabled vehicle OFF THE ROAD, you're getting confused.

Flasing beacon IS REQUIRED should the vehicle combination be travelling at LESS THAN the traffic flow, he was doing 50 mph in lane one  :y

Rant all yer want, at least it encourages others to be mindfull when towing and who knows you might even learn something  ;D
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Re: Towing Illegally M4 West bound Junct 16 - 17
« Reply #27 on: 11 January 2009, 23:52:51 »
Not me

Character is right in what he says about A frames-

http://www.ntta.co.uk/faq/default.htm

"An A-frame or dolly can only be used to recover a broken down vehicle to a place of safety. Transporting a car is, therefore, illegal. A-frames may be offered with a braking system that applies the car's brakes. These do not conform to the law as the car then becomes a "braked trailer" and has to conform to European Directives contained within the Construction and Use Regulations. It does not conform to the European Directive 71/320/EEC and amendments regarding braking requirements in any way. The use of this A-frame for transportation is illegal. It is still OK for use to recover a vehicle to a place of safety."

and Note on A-Frames and Dollies, issued by the Department for Transport  see http://www.ukmotorhomes.net/a-frames.shtml

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Re: Towing Illegally M4 West bound Junct 16 - 17
« Reply #28 on: 11 January 2009, 23:53:14 »
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cheers guys, sorry for dumping this on your forum but thought it would be more polite that ringing the rossers to get him pulled over.

Forgot to mention, lateish afternoon no lights or actually on the saloon omega, so me and an artic came upon him to see just one single 4inch x 4 inch tail light on the n/s rear, no "on tow" sign either.

Sorry to be a stickler, but I move vehicles around the country so I would like to think I know what I'm on about  :)

ps to the poster regards the difference between a dolly and A frame, dolly has the front end of the disabled vehicle OFF THE ROAD, you're getting confused.

Flasing beacon IS REQUIRED should the vehicle combination be travelling at LESS THAN the traffic flow, he was doing 50 mph in lane one  :y

Rant all yer want, at least it encourages others to be mindfull when towing and who knows you might even learn something  ;D

Can I delete my last post?  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Towing Illegally M4 West bound Junct 16 - 17
« Reply #29 on: 11 January 2009, 23:54:09 »
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ps to the poster regards the difference between a dolly and A frame, dolly has the front end of the disabled vehicle OFF THE ROAD, you're getting confused.

It's a permanent state I'm afraid ;D Especially when on the meds :D
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