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A wee question.
« on: 01 February 2009, 23:06:57 »
Well, a wii question actually.

I cant seem to get my wii rigged up to my wireless broadband, sky.

It wont connect.

I quite fancy the mariokart online races.

Can anybody help?
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Re: A wee question.
« Reply #1 on: 02 February 2009, 08:59:40 »
Nothing odd about it, what part is it failing on?
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Re: A wee question.
« Reply #2 on: 02 February 2009, 09:12:03 »
I had to set my router to wireless G I think it was, and set the password and the it worked fine for my youngest. If the router was to wireless B the least secure setting then the wii would not connect to it.

Top and bottom was I could connect either my old laptop or the wii. So bought a new wireless card for the laptop off ebay for ab out £7 and now all works together.

HTH

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Re: A wee question.
« Reply #3 on: 02 February 2009, 09:14:57 »
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I had to set my router to wireless G I think it was, and set the password and the it worked fine for my youngest. If the router was to wireless B the least secure setting then the wii would not connect to it.

Top and bottom was I could connect either my old laptop or the wii. So bought a new wireless card for the laptop off ebay for ab out £7 and now all works together.

HTH

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Wii works on G or B, and certainly able to use WPA (anyone even attempting to use WEP in this day and age (or for the previous 5yrs) should be strung up and shot for immense stupidity), so no need to adjust router settings for Wii  :-/
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Re: A wee question.
« Reply #4 on: 02 February 2009, 09:18:22 »
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I had to set my router to wireless G I think it was, and set the password and the it worked fine for my youngest. If the router was to wireless B the least secure setting then the wii would not connect to it.

Top and bottom was I could connect either my old laptop or the wii. So bought a new wireless card for the laptop off ebay for ab out £7 and now all works together.

HTH

Mike
Wii works on G or B, and certainly able to use WPA (anyone even attempting to use WEP in this day and age (or for the previous 5yrs) should be strung up and shot for immense stupidity), so no need to adjust router settings for Wii  :-/

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 a password is a password is it not?
as long as the people next door cant download porn and movies on my connection i though that was enough?

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Re: A wee question.
« Reply #5 on: 02 February 2009, 11:03:07 »
The Wii is a little fusy about the channel used by the wireless router, channel 1 or 11 is the recommended!
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Re: A wee question.
« Reply #6 on: 02 February 2009, 11:58:18 »
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The Wii is a little fusy about the channel used by the wireless router, channel 1 or 11 is the recommended!
Mine seems perfectly happy whichever channel I select (idiots around here keep dumping their brand new wireless routers right on top of mine, so I end up changing mine every 2 or 3 weeks).  1 6 and 11 are generally recommend for all wifi applications as non overlapping.
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« Reply #7 on: 02 February 2009, 13:23:46 »
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I had to set my router to wireless G I think it was, and set the password and the it worked fine for my youngest. If the router was to wireless B the least secure setting then the wii would not connect to it.

Top and bottom was I could connect either my old laptop or the wii. So bought a new wireless card for the laptop off ebay for ab out £7 and now all works together.

HTH

Mike
Wii works on G or B, and certainly able to use WPA (anyone even attempting to use WEP in this day and age (or for the previous 5yrs) should be strung up and shot for immense stupidity), so no need to adjust router settings for Wii  :-/

I have to admit I did not want to go wireless, so bought the cheapest router I could find and out of the box is was to set to B, it connected straight to my 6 year old laptop but would not connect to the wii I am afraid. Anyway it is on G now with a password as long as my arm  ;D

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Re: A wee question.
« Reply #8 on: 02 February 2009, 14:11:45 »
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I had to set my router to wireless G I think it was, and set the password and the it worked fine for my youngest. If the router was to wireless B the least secure setting then the wii would not connect to it.

Top and bottom was I could connect either my old laptop or the wii. So bought a new wireless card for the laptop off ebay for ab out £7 and now all works together.

HTH

Mike
Wii works on G or B, and certainly able to use WPA (anyone even attempting to use WEP in this day and age (or for the previous 5yrs) should be strung up and shot for immense stupidity), so no need to adjust router settings for Wii  :-/

I have to admit I did not want to go wireless, so bought the cheapest router I could find and out of the box is was to set to B, it connected straight to my 6 year old laptop but would not connect to the wii I am afraid. Anyway it is on G now with a password as long as my arm  ;D

Mike
WEP or WPA?  If WEP, go find a shotgun ;D
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Re: A wee question.
« Reply #9 on: 02 February 2009, 14:18:31 »
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I had to set my router to wireless G I think it was, and set the password and the it worked fine for my youngest. If the router was to wireless B the least secure setting then the wii would not connect to it.

Top and bottom was I could connect either my old laptop or the wii. So bought a new wireless card for the laptop off ebay for ab out £7 and now all works together.

HTH

Mike
Wii works on G or B, and certainly able to use WPA (anyone even attempting to use WEP in this day and age (or for the previous 5yrs) should be strung up and shot for immense stupidity), so no need to adjust router settings for Wii  :-/

gulp!!
 a password is a password is it not?
as long as the people next door cant download porn and movies on my connection i though that was enough?

Doug

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Nope, its about encryption of the data you send and receive using WiFi.  WEP can be cracked quite easily and while it has a lag between transmition and encryption there can be no interference of the connection but they will be able to decrypt all you data being sent, so all your passwords, bank details (if you use online banking) etc.  All this interception can be done using simple equipment and software available for small bucks off the internet.

WPA has recently been partly hacked although only snippets of data were encrpted, my guess is that it wont be long before WPA is cracked.  WPA2 is the most secure available commercially and as yet has no been cracked.

This is also why you should no do any online banking (or the sort) using public (unsecured) WiFi.  Someone could be sat in the bar/airport/etc with one of these gadgets sucking up data to be decrypted later.  Then a few days later your account will read zero and you are in-hack to some back for 20k you didnt know about!  :(
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Re: A wee question.
« Reply #10 on: 02 February 2009, 14:44:02 »
WEP is easy to crack.

Trouble with WEP is that not all packets are encrypted so you download a basic packet that gathers a few minutes worth of packets.

It then finds the un-encrypted packets and floods these towards the wireless access point which responds with encrypted packets which are now a predictable response to the ones its sent......then its simply a case of running the maths (you have a known un-encrypted packet and an encrpyted respnse which you know the answer to) and out pops the token (not really a password on such setups).

WPA and WPA2 has been cracked.....but it requires serious processing power to do it!
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Re: A wee question.
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I had to set my router to wireless G I think it was, and set the password and the it worked fine for my youngest. If the router was to wireless B the least secure setting then the wii would not connect to it.

Top and bottom was I could connect either my old laptop or the wii. So bought a new wireless card for the laptop off ebay for ab out £7 and now all works together.

HTH

Mike
Wii works on G or B, and certainly able to use WPA (anyone even attempting to use WEP in this day and age (or for the previous 5yrs) should be strung up and shot for immense stupidity), so no need to adjust router settings for Wii  :-/

gulp!!
 a password is a password is it not?
as long as the people next door cant download porn and movies on my connection i though that was enough?

Doug

Doug

Nope, its about encryption of the data you send and receive using WiFi.  WEP can be cracked quite easily and while it has a lag between transmition and encryption there can be no interference of the connection but they will be able to decrypt all you data being sent, so all your passwords, bank details (if you use online banking) etc.  All this interception can be done using simple equipment and software available for small bucks off the internet.

WPA has recently been partly hacked although only snippets of data were encrpted, my guess is that it wont be long before WPA is cracked.  WPA2 is the most secure available commercially and as yet has no been cracked.

This is also why you should no do any online banking (or the sort) using public (unsecured) WiFi.  Someone could be sat in the bar/airport/etc with one of these gadgets sucking up data to be decrypted later.  Then a few days later your account will read zero and you are in-hack to some back for 20k you didnt know about!  :(
Though obviously banking etc would be further encrypted by the, as yet, unbroken (in real time) SSL ;)
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« Reply #12 on: 02 February 2009, 17:06:10 »
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WEP is easy to crack.

Trouble with WEP is that not all packets are encrypted so you download a basic packet that gathers a few minutes worth of packets.

It then finds the un-encrypted packets and floods these towards the wireless access point which responds with encrypted packets which are now a predictable response to the ones its sent......then its simply a case of running the maths (you have a known un-encrypted packet and an encrpyted respnse which you know the answer to) and out pops the token (not really a password on such setups).

WPA and WPA2 has been cracked.....but it requires serious processing power to do it!

Didn't know that!  When was this?  :o
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« Reply #13 on: 02 February 2009, 19:09:56 »
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WEP is easy to crack.

Trouble with WEP is that not all packets are encrypted so you download a basic packet that gathers a few minutes worth of packets.

It then finds the un-encrypted packets and floods these towards the wireless access point which responds with encrypted packets which are now a predictable response to the ones its sent......then its simply a case of running the maths (you have a known un-encrypted packet and an encrpyted respnse which you know the answer to) and out pops the token (not really a password on such setups).

WPA and WPA2 has been cracked.....but it requires serious processing power to do it!

Didn't know that!  When was this?  :o
Its partially done, but can't be done in sensible time with the sort of hardware we have access to...
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