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albitz

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Rover 25
« on: 06 February 2009, 18:53:08 »
A lady at work has a Rover 25 which is losing water.The garage says it isnt the head gasket. Any ideas ?
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Re: Rover 25
« Reply #1 on: 06 February 2009, 18:57:29 »
K series????

Bet it is the HG.......


If the water aint coming out on the road then.......
Try another garage
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Re: Rover 25
« Reply #2 on: 06 February 2009, 19:02:50 »
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K series????

Bet it is the HG.......


If the water aint coming out on the road then.......
Try another garage
Agreed, I would put money on it that it's HG try another garage
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Re: Rover 25
« Reply #3 on: 06 February 2009, 19:04:02 »
Dont know enough to even know if it would be a K series,but apparently the garage it was bought from did the HG a while ago,its now losing water so they have had a look and said it definetely isnt the HG but they dont know what is causing it.I think one "mechanic"wore a stetson and the other one had spurs on his boots. ::) ::)
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« Reply #4 on: 06 February 2009, 19:11:39 »
25 will have the K series,or newer version thereof.......

There rubbish,very easy to damage the HG on rebuild,or not having it skimmed correctly...my money would be on poorly done repair or done on the cheap,therefore not done properly....
If its loosing water and its not pouring onto the road then i would be pretty confident its HG,either that or when it was done before the head itself has a crack and been put back together with the defect, the new gasket would just split again at the crack....

Probably this was the engine that killed Rover once and for all,
Some Landrover Freelanders had them,hence why you can buy a Freelander today for around £300 to £500! and thats for a 2001/2002 model.... :o
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Re: Rover 25
« Reply #5 on: 06 February 2009, 19:16:23 »
the garage are trying to cover them selfs of any come backs ? i sounds hg for def take to another garage one that will do a proper job and know how to fill and bleed cooling system correctly have done loads never had a problem but know plenty of people that went to the wrong place
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Re: Rover 25
« Reply #6 on: 06 February 2009, 19:21:56 »
Will pass the message on ,thanks. She is skint and in a panic as she needs a car to get to both her jobs.
Apparently the head wasnt skimmed,they just changed the gasket,remember reading a thread a while ago (by Lazydocker?) that there is a certain make of gasket with a spacer which cures this problem ? anyone any info on that?
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« Reply #7 on: 06 February 2009, 19:43:02 »
Not skimmed........?

Oh dear
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Re: Rover 25
« Reply #8 on: 06 February 2009, 21:00:01 »
the best way to check if it is the HGF is to look at the dip stick and under the oil cap if you have chocolate milkshake then shes in the poo.

the other one is how much water is she loosing??????
it could be an airlock it is possible.
the best place to ask is on this website i use it for my rover 200 and the lads are great.
http://forums.mg-rover.org/
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Re: Rover 25
« Reply #9 on: 06 February 2009, 21:23:36 »
check the thermostat housing as they are prone to breaking,also the cap on the expansion bottle can cause it problems
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Re: Rover 25
« Reply #10 on: 06 February 2009, 21:51:49 »
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A lady at work has a Rover 25 which is losing water.The garage says it isnt the head gasket. Any ideas ?
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HG aside, the favourites on these for coolant leaks are rad, stat housing, or coolant transfer pipe, all of which leave visible signs.

If HG, the K series tends to show signs of water in oil.
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Re: Rover 25
« Reply #11 on: 06 February 2009, 21:59:36 »
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25 will have the K series,or newer version thereof.......

There rubbish,very easy to damage the HG on rebuild,or not having it skimmed correctly...my money would be on poorly done repair or done on the cheap,therefore not done properly....
If its loosing water and its not pouring onto the road then i would be pretty confident its HG,either that or when it was done before the head itself has a crack and been put back together with the defect, the new gasket would just split again at the crack....

Probably this was the engine that killed Rover once and for all,
Some Landrover Freelanders had them,hence why you can buy a Freelander today for around £300 to £500! and thats for a 2001/2002 model.... :o
The K series is actually a very good engine, despite its age (20yrs since its release this year), but unfortunately under the BMW years, never got the development it needed.  

How many 20yr old engines could still meet today's emmissions standard? How many 20yr old engines can still match its main competitors current engines on performance?


Landrover did improve its HG issue massively towards the end of its production - sadly Rover chose not to do this (despite Powertrain - a Rover company - supplied both Rover and Landrover).  A HG failure on a Rover K series is guaranteed in the same way as a crank sensor failure is on a GM V6.  It WILL happen, just be prepared and try to catch it as early as possible.
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Re: Rover 25
« Reply #12 on: 06 February 2009, 22:22:54 »
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25 will have the K series,or newer version thereof.......

There rubbish,very easy to damage the HG on rebuild,or not having it skimmed correctly...my money would be on poorly done repair or done on the cheap,therefore not done properly....
If its loosing water and its not pouring onto the road then i would be pretty confident its HG,either that or when it was done before the head itself has a crack and been put back together with the defect, the new gasket would just split again at the crack....

Probably this was the engine that killed Rover once and for all,
Some Landrover Freelanders had them,hence why you can buy a Freelander today for around £300 to £500! and thats for a 2001/2002 model.... :o
The K series is actually a very good engine, despite its age (20yrs since its release this year), but unfortunately under the BMW years, never got the development it needed.  

How many 20yr old engines could still meet today's emmissions standard? How many 20yr old engines can still match its main competitors current engines on performance?


Landrover did improve its HG issue massively towards the end of its production - sadly Rover chose not to do this (despite Powertrain - a Rover company - supplied both Rover and Landrover).  A HG failure on a Rover K series is guaranteed in the same way as a crank sensor failure is on a GM V6.  It WILL happen, just be prepared and try to catch it as early as possible.
To be honest if you look at the 1.4 in a 25 103ps model there are hardly any cars on the market at th minute that actualy match it's performance I was suprised good engine it was apart from HG's.
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Re: Rover 25
« Reply #13 on: 06 February 2009, 22:47:26 »
all rovers have crap water pumps and crap heater matrix and the only place they can keep hold of water is in form of condenstion in inside of windows.
i should know cos i been using one as temporary cheap form of transport for past 2 month :-[
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« Reply #14 on: 07 February 2009, 11:00:36 »
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all rovers have crap water pumps and crap heater matrix and the only place they can keep hold of water is in form of condenstion in inside of windows.
i should know cos i been using one as temporary cheap form of transport for past 2 month :-[
In that case, the 4 Rovers I have owned must have been the exception to the rule.  Oh, plus the 2 Mrs TheBoy's dad had, not to mention the 3 here brother had.   :-/

I will concede the R7 (wedge shaped hatchback) 200 series did seem to suffer condensation issues. It appeared to be water running down the aerial in the A post making carpets damp that caused it...

Never known water pump problems or heater matrix problems though  :-/
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