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[albitz]

Without witnesses I would imagine you are stuffed,which is why professional insurance claimants do exactly that.

[cem_devecioglu]

Without witnesses I would imagine you are stuffed,which is why professional insurance claimants do exactly that.

Practically in crowded roads witnesses are other drivers which doesnt have any right to stop and block the road..this means you are  

[feeutfo]

The Mk1 viewpoint that most cops (and courts/Insurance companies) take is that if one car is planted up the rear of the other then the rearmost one is the one at fault.  Also the same for the domino theory pileups on motorways, broadly speaking.

Great if you have the witnesses to prove that the car in front was reversing, but very very difficult to prove otherwise.....

if I understand correctly,  this means that if I slam the brakes suddenly in the middle of 120 km/h lane I will be innocent :-?

    suitable place for women drivers..

Short answer, yes.

The car behind should be travelling far enough behind to stop in time, irrespective of what the car in front does...

And the long answer? If a car over takes you, pulls in front leaving you nowhere to go and slams on the breaks what are you meant to do?

As soon as the gap in front of you closes, you reduce speed/brake to increase the gap to a safe level.

great in theory, harder in practice.

Most legal circles revolve in black and white, not grey or glorious technicolour, unfortunately....

Hence the need for a witness...no chance without one.

[Pete Elite]

 Sorry to here that Mark .

  Surely the fact that she drove onto the roundabout then hit the brakes meant she pulled out dangerously then thought twice about it without any regard for following drivers, i mean it is a give way and not a stop signed junction .

  She should be done for dangerous driving IMO but in the real world the right thing never seems to be the done thing .

[stuart30]

Sorry to here that Mark .

  Surely the fact that she drove onto the roundabout then hit the brakes meant she pulled out dangerously then thought twice about it without any regard for following drivers, i mean it is a give way and not a stop signed junction .

  She should be done for dangerous driving IMO but in the real world the right thing never seems to be the done thing .

What dangerous...she pulled away,found it wasnt safe too do so and stopped.

Its admirable everyone has jumped too Marks defence and rallied around but lets not forget it boils down too she stopped and mark didnt.

Why oh why do people want too make it more than it is.

[STMO123]

I've nearly done this quite a few times. Car in front takes off, you look to your right for anything coming and start to move off and, sh!t, they've stopped again.
I've actually trained myself to watch nothing other than the car in front of me and I dont make a move until it's gone.
I believe this is one of the most common shunts.

[Auto Addict]

Just drove into the back of a woman in a Polo

Coming off the A46, she pulls over the give way line and then slams the brakes on.....I hit the back of her.

'dangle berries'

I go away for a week, and look what you've done!

Can't leave you alone for a minute, can I?

Seriously, bad luck Mark

[HerefordElite]

Sorry to here that Mark .

  Surely the fact that she drove onto the roundabout then hit the brakes meant she pulled out dangerously then thought twice about it without any regard for following drivers, i mean it is a give way and not a stop signed junction .

  She should be done for dangerous driving IMO but in the real world the right thing never seems to be the done thing .

What dangerous...she pulled away,found it wasnt safe too do so and stopped.

Its admirable everyone has jumped too Marks defence and rallied around but lets not forget it boils down too she stopped and mark didnt.

Why oh why do people want too make it more than it is.

I've done it myself, women in front started to turn right at a junction then fannyied around and changed her mind because she didn't have the confidence to be driving, and i was already looking ahead so ran into the back of her - luckily only about 2mph so minor damage.

Totaly my fault BUT it's very frustrating being sat behind unconfident drivers who need a 1/4 mile gap in both directions to pulll out, the roads are so busy in rush hour you need to be confident and sometimes aggressive otherwise you'll be waiting all day.

[Elite Pete]

I've nearly done this quite a few times. Car in front takes off, you look to your right for anything coming and start to move off and, sh!t, they've stopped again.
I've actually trained myself to watch nothing other than the car in front of me and I dont make a move until it's gone.
I believe this is one of the most common shunts.

Bet that took some doing, old dog new tricks and all that

[Welung666]

I've nearly done this quite a few times. Car in front takes off, you look to your right for anything coming and start to move off and, sh!t, they've stopped again.
I've actually trained myself to watch nothing other than the car in front of me and I dont make a move until it's gone.
I believe this is one of the most common shunts.

Bet that took some doing, old dog new tricks and all that

 

[TheBoy]

I'm afraid, it is MDTM's "fault" in this case. These shunts are pretty common (I work in roundabout city), and always falls in favour of the car in front. It is not relevent what she was doing...

[Andy B]

Years ago I went in to the back of a Triumph Stag , I was about 20 at the time. The other bloke was good enough to not go through insurance. But it still cost me around £35 for a little bit of chrome trim + some other bits ....... a lot of money at the time  

[vauxmad]

yeah sadly its always the way but its goes in favour of the car hit

[vauxmad]

oh, if you do want to repair it i have a complete t reg breaking if its any use

[VX1]

Thats the problem with women drivers, they hesitate, ponder, nervous, frightened to pull out when there is plenty of space like 400-500yards of gap, not looking at the road always looking in the mirror AT themselves etc do I need to go on, and they say that women drivers are the safest drivers on the road? Thats what statistics say anyway but thats wrong.

I have found that when I am driving on the road I have seen plenty of women drivers not taking notice of whats going on around them and when they do brake suddenly they start to blame you/the other driver. I think that women drivers should have to take some form of reaction test every 3 months and men should do the same just to include them into this as well.

But sorry to here about your accident Mark hope you get the mig sorted out either by insurance or diy.

Paul