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I've been N.I.P'ed
« on: 04 April 2009, 21:18:27 »

Bang goes my clean licence by the look of things.
This morning I received a Notice of Intended Prosecution for 41mph in a 30 limit.
Checked the location and it is the mobile camera van that often parked less than 100yds from my house.
The road in question is a 30 limit due to it being a residential area and the camera is located just after the end of the buildings, where the road opens up for a half mile of common ground, no trees, hedges, buildings, nothing at all, down to a roundabout that then becomes a 40 limit, but still the same open ground.

My question is, how do I request a copy of the photograph and is it possible to be a false reading off a vehicle coming out of the 40 limit towards the camera as I was passing ?As I previously mentioned, this van is less than 100yds from my house and I just can't accept that I was doing that speed especially as I know it's often there.

What is annoying is that there is a 1.5 mile stretch of built up, residential area that I often see idiots travelling along at what I would estimate to me 45-50mph and yet the camera is facing away from this area and is directed at the open ground, where most drivers are likely to accellerate into the 40 limit. (Profit rather than safety?  Surely not !!)
The area was a flood plain, so you'll know what I mean by totally flat, open ground.


    
        
  
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Re: I've been N.I.P'ed
« Reply #1 on: 04 April 2009, 21:19:38 »

They wont release any photographic evidence unless it goes to court mate, I tried that one too.

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« Reply #2 on: 04 April 2009, 21:26:14 »

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They wont release any photographic evidence unless it goes to court mate, I tried that one too.

 :-/

When i got a nip in the post, not me driving, one of my rented cars.
There was a web address and password, iirc, on the nip somewhere.
I certainly could view the photo evidence on the interwebby  :y
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Re: I've been N.I.P'ed
« Reply #3 on: 04 April 2009, 21:29:43 »

Nope, no web address or anything advising where to view on this one.  
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« Reply #4 on: 04 April 2009, 21:30:40 »

they have to release photo's - i asked to see mine a few years ago as i wasn't sure who was driving - and i'm fairly sure they have to let you see as the registered keeper is not necessarily who was driving but if you don't declare who was driving then the fine and points will go to the keeper sorry :(
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« Reply #5 on: 04 April 2009, 21:32:00 »

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Bang goes my clean licence by the look of things.
This morning I received a Notice of Intended Prosecution for 41mph in a 30 limit.
Checked the location and it is the mobile camera van that often parked less than 100yds from my house.
The road in question is a 30 limit due to it being a residential area and the camera is located just after the end of the buildings, where the road opens up for a half mile of common ground, no trees, hedges, buildings, nothing at all, down to a roundabout that then becomes a 40 limit, but still the same open ground.

My question is, how do I request a copy of the photograph and is it possible to be a false reading off a vehicle coming out of the 40 limit towards the camera as I was passing ?As I previously mentioned, this van is less than 100yds from my house and I just can't accept that I was doing that speed especially as I know it's often there.

What is annoying is that there is a 1.5 mile stretch of built up, residential area that I often see idiots travelling along at what I would estimate to me 45-50mph and yet the camera is facing away from this area and is directed at the open ground, where most drivers are likely to accellerate into the 40 limit. (Profit rather than safety?  Surely not !!)
The area was a flood plain, so you'll know what I mean by totally flat, open ground.  
        
  

Not sure about that, but there are websites about, giving pointers on speeding tickets.....one i can remember is a loose number plate, can give a false reading.....ie the gun is pointed at the number plate (as its needs a flat surface to get an accurate reading) if the number plate is loose and vibrating, it can give a false reading.
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« Reply #6 on: 04 April 2009, 21:32:29 »

No, there wasnt on mine either.........You not thinking of that wind-up one are you where you put your cars reg in and it brings up a fictitious offfence?

Lincs Police wouldnt show me the pic of mine unless I took them to court instead of accepting the fixed penalty.

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« Reply #7 on: 04 April 2009, 21:38:39 »

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No, there wasnt on mine either.........You not thinking of that wind-up one are you where you put your cars reg in and it brings up a fictitious offfence?
Lincs Police wouldnt show me the pic of mine unless I took them to court instead of accepting the fixec penalty.


Nope im not.....i can definatley remember seeing the rear of my rented car from a web site....with speed in one of the corners of the photo....it think it was 36/37mph in a 30 zone.

Maybe they have changed it now  :-/ .....it was a couple of years ago
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« Reply #8 on: 04 April 2009, 21:41:11 »

http://www.motorlawyers.co.uk/procedure/notice_of_intended_prosecution.htm

seems they don't have to show you - but mine did :-/
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« Reply #9 on: 04 April 2009, 21:41:52 »

If you get a NIP in the post you can request photgraphic evidence of the driver of the vehicle. Due to freedom of some regulation which allows you to request said evedence.

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« Reply #10 on: 04 April 2009, 21:43:42 »

I can only speak of my experience, and they wouldnt show me the pics unless I took it to court

I just bit the bullet, I knew it was me !! :y
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« Reply #11 on: 04 April 2009, 21:47:56 »

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No, there wasnt on mine either.........You not thinking of that wind-up one are you where you put your cars reg in and it brings up a fictitious offfence?
Lincs Police wouldnt show me the pic of mine unless I took them to court instead of accepting the fixec penalty.


Nope im not.....i can definatley remember seeing the rear of my rented car from a web site....with speed in one of the corners of the photo....it think it was 36/37mph in a 30 zone.

Maybe they have changed it now  :-/ .....it was a couple of years ago

Maybe not all counties have this facility.....

I just went on Wiltshires speed cam site and certainly looks as you can view photo evidence

http://www.safetycameraswiltshire.co.uk/faqs.asp?Cat=7

See the FAQ's down the rhs......suggessts you can view the photo evidence  :y
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« Reply #12 on: 04 April 2009, 21:49:35 »

having thought about it :-[ mine was from a fixed camera and they actualy sent me the photos with the NIP as i remember the before and after shot showing the marks on the road and i worked out the exact speed based on their time readings on the photo.

I told them i wasn't sure who was driving to stall for time as my insurance renewal was due in a few weeks ;)
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« Reply #13 on: 04 April 2009, 21:52:22 »

When I was NIP'd a few years ago I asked for a copy oof the photos to confirm the identity of the driver and they sent them by post right away (didn't get my best side either!).

As for possible false readings, it's unlikely as the camera and detector are aimed at your lane. Being a mobile unit thhere is a chance he was off aim I guess ... fixed cameras take several photos and your speed can be calculated, independantly of the cameras reading, by reference to the road markings .... not so with a mobile.

The vibrating number plate theory probably relates to the old hand held muni-quip gear they used back in the late 70's. If you "pushed" the gun forward while taking a reading you could increase the speed of the target --- and in those days a flat target was best (VW Beetles were b*gg*rs!). Manny a pillar box was registered above the speed limit!!!!
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Re: I've been N.I.P'ed
« Reply #14 on: 04 April 2009, 21:54:41 »

Oh it was definately me. I'd have been en-route to work Saturday morning at 09:41.
Just baffled by it because I would have pulled out of my road and this camera van is hidden  parked at the point where I'm still in 2nd gear. It's that close to my house.  
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