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[smoothomega]

Well i have bit the bullet and bought a tractor, pick it up next Friday, its a 51 reg CDX with driver involvment pack, and a service history that will take me a month to trawl through, its in a very odd colour of green that looks almost blue. So looks like the Elite is going  

[Vamps]

Well i have bit the bullet and bought a tractor, pick it up next Friday, its a 51 reg CDX with driver involvment pack, and a service history that will take me a month to trawl through, its in a very odd colour of green that looks almost blue. So looks like the Elite is going  

If that is the colour I am thinking of it is very nice. Good luck with it, did you get a good deal?

[largecol]

Well i have bit the bullet and bought a tractor, pick it up next Friday, its a 51 reg CDX with driver involvment pack, and a service history that will take me a month to trawl through, its in a very odd colour of green that looks almost blue. So looks like the Elite is going  

I know the colour, its suits the Mig well. Welcome to Tractor heaven my friend.....

[stuart30]

Well i have bit the bullet and bought a tractor, pick it up next Friday, its a 51 reg CDX with driver involvment pack, and a service history that will take me a month to trawl through, its in a very odd colour of green that looks almost blue. So looks like the Elite is going  

Sounds like the elite ive just bought....'Nautilus Blue'. Z283.

Looks like Teal too me.. :-/

[Pitchfork]

Another one north of the Thames. It's lonely down here in Hampshire!

[TheBoy]

Sounds like the 2.2DTi, rather than the 2.5TD

Really keep on top of the oil changes - the turbos seem prone to wear otherwise, which means you can't switch off the engine, and it revs to destruction.  Also, keep the inlets nice and clean, particularly around the boost pressure sensor and egr.

[Marks DTM Calib]

Sounds like the 2.2DTi, rather than the 2.5TD

Really keep on top of the oil changes - the turbos seem prone to wear otherwise, which means you can't switch off the engine, and it revs to destruction.  Also, keep the inlets nice and clean, particularly around the boost pressure sensor and egr.

Lo, another myth....they only suffer issues if you stick to the stupid 20K service intervals (and I know Jez wont!)

The only problems these lumps have are totaly related to poor maintenance, the inlets can get gummed up.....due to poor oil changes (as per any engine), the turbos seals can go due to poor oil changes (as per any turbo engine) and the diesel pumps can suffer wear due to dirt and water getting into them due to poor servicing of the diesel filter (as per any engine).

To be honest, there actualy one of the more trouble free diesel units out there....if serviced.

I would go as far to say as they actualy have no major weakness if cared for!

[Pitchfork]

Sounds like the 2.2DTi, rather than the 2.5TD

Really keep on top of the oil changes - the turbos seem prone to wear otherwise, which means you can't switch off the engine, and it revs to destruction.  Also, keep the inlets nice and clean, particularly around the boost pressure sensor and egr.

They can even recover from being filled with flood water
Lo, another myth....they only suffer issues if you stick to the stupid 20K service intervals (and I know Jez wont!)

The only problems these lumps have are totaly related to poor maintenance, the inlets can get gummed up.....due to poor oil changes (as per any engine), the turbos seals can go due to poor oil changes (as per any turbo engine) and the diesel pumps can suffer wear due to dirt and water getting into them due to poor servicing of the diesel filter (as per any engine).

To be honest, there actualy one of the more trouble free diesel units out there....if serviced.

I would go as far to say as they actualy have no major weakness if cared for!

[TheBoy]

Sounds like the 2.2DTi, rather than the 2.5TD

Really keep on top of the oil changes - the turbos seem prone to wear otherwise, which means you can't switch off the engine, and it revs to destruction.  Also, keep the inlets nice and clean, particularly around the boost pressure sensor and egr.

Lo, another myth....they only suffer issues if you stick to the stupid 20K service intervals (and I know Jez wont!)

The only problems these lumps have are totaly related to poor maintenance, the inlets can get gummed up.....due to poor oil changes (as per any engine), the turbos seals can go due to poor oil changes (as per any turbo engine) and the diesel pumps can suffer wear due to dirt and water getting into them due to poor servicing of the diesel filter (as per any engine).

To be honest, there actualy one of the more trouble free diesel units out there....if serviced.

I would go as far to say as they actualy have no major weakness if cared for!

LOL, don't be so protective of your beloved GM, and read my post

[TheBoy]

Though, to be honest, most engines are reliable if looked after, aside from the early Rover KV6 and the non modified Rover K4 .  OK, some engines may be unlucky enough to pop a HG at 100k+, regardless of make, though the GM V6 does seem to be exempt , otherwise most engine failures can be attributed to poor servicing.


I think the biggest problem with deseasals is the mentality of owners (NOT the educated souls on here - joe public), who buy a diesel due to covering higher mileage, but still only get it serviced annually (or when the SVS comes on, which in Vauxhall's case is the daft 20k).

I think that mentality is the downfall of the 2.5TD engine, which on U25DT units, BMW state 4.5k oil servicing, and on X25DT, 7.5k (despite being identical engine mechanically).  Oil gets in a mess, some oilways start to clog, insufficient oil flow, something seizes, conrod makes an escape for outside world.

That same mentality exists for a couple of people at work with their 2.0D Zaffys, as I've mentioned privately to you before. They think the car is unreliable, one having just spent £400 odd on a new egr, despite being serviced annually, and more-or-less within the service schedule!  These are both cars just out of 3yr warranty (now 4yrs old), and starting to get expensive.  Is it the fault of the owner? They have pretty much obeyed Vauxhall's 'recommendations'   :-/.  And yes, I've tried telling them, but their dealers say otherwise, and who do they believe, Vx 'experts' or a Unix geek?

[TheBoy]

on the subject of poor oil servicing, I gave my eldest brother an old Honda engined Rover a few years ago (I wasn't using it, as she had company lease car, and I had company van), as he needed a cheap car during his divorce, then after that wanted a car to use for 'dirty' work whilst he was rebuilding his house.  He got it with 80k on the clock, and did NOTHING, and I mean nothing to it, other than MOT (never needed work doing to pass).  I borrowed it back at 130k when I was moving house, and it still went like the clappers.  About 20k after that, it failed MOT on poor brakes, and a bit of rust. As the clutch was shafted anyway, he scrapped it.  70+k without an oil change, or even an oil top up

(OK, it was petrol, so doesn't need the changes of diesels, but even so )


We've both said that that car was indestructable, and dirt cheap to run.  Probably the best small car we've both owned.

[Marks DTM Calib]

We have seen many times from all sorts of manufacturers engines that last for huge periods with no servicng but, you always get a final and sudden catastrophic failure.

The Estate Matchless bought was an example, 60K miles and no servicing, it was in reasonable nick but showed signs of a clogged fuel filter and took a number of short oil changes to get it back the state you or I would want it in.

[TheBoy]

We have seen many times from all sorts of manufacturers engines that last for huge periods with no servicng but, you always get a final and sudden catastrophic failure.

The Estate Matchless bought was an example, 60K miles and no servicing, it was in reasonable nick but showed signs of a clogged fuel filter and took a number of short oil changes to get it back the state you or I would want it in.

Yeah, it seems many cars can run for ages with no servicing (petrols more than diesels), but eventually, it will end on the back of an AA towtruck

In the case of that Rover, I'm surprised it lasted. To be honest, the way I drove it when it was mine, I'm surprised it was still strong - it was redline at around 7k, but no limiter until around 7.5k.  And every bit of that was used .  As said, it wasn't the engine, it was the brakes, clutch and needing bits of fridge welding into the underside that killed that car, which surprised me, as I always expected it to be the engine that would give up.  Did those Honda engines have a cambelt? If so, I guess that may have been overdue, as it was never done

[Marks DTM Calib]

Yep, very basic cambelt setup ala the old 8V Vx units.

[TheBoy]

Yep, very basic cambelt setup ala the old 8V Vx units.

Actually, thats a good point, can't remember if mine was a single or twin cam. They were both 16v engines, but available in single cam and twin cam varients...