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2.5 V6 - How long will they last for?
« on: 04 May 2009, 23:42:46 »

I am astounded by the mileage being quoted on the forum for some of the engines being talked about.

For a regular serviced 2.5 V6 what is the normal life expectancy? What is the most mileage anyone has seen that was still working OK?

Just a ponder on my part! :)

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Re: 2.5 V6 - How long will they last for?
« Reply #1 on: 04 May 2009, 23:46:47 »

Dunno about the petrol jobbies, but my 2.5td Elite auto has 225k and my 2.5td CD manual has 103k on the clocks and both sound and run spot on.
Properly maintained they should all give seriously high mileage.  :y

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Re: 2.5 V6 - How long will they last for?
« Reply #2 on: 04 May 2009, 23:47:38 »

Depends on your definition of regular servicing. If you go by Vx's later 20k servicing, then not long.

As was shown at the weekend, my very regularly serviced 153k MV6 still has a very strong engine.

Its far more likely that the car will get scrapped for other reasons, unless you ignore the cambelt inteval...
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Re: 2.5 V6 - How long will they last for?
« Reply #3 on: 04 May 2009, 23:48:57 »

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Dunno about the petrol jobbies, but my 2.5td has 225k on the clock and sounds and runs spot on.
Properly maintained they should all give seriously high mileage.  :y
3k oil changes are the real key to the tractor, as it does make a mess of its oil quickly, and being chain driven, clean oil is essential.
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Re: 2.5 V6 - How long will they last for?
« Reply #4 on: 04 May 2009, 23:50:46 »

Historically it has been every 10K miles and cambelt changed at 80K

Its about to be put in the hands of a resident forum member who I am sure (from what everyone has said about him) will look after it 10 times better than any local garage.
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Re: 2.5 V6 - How long will they last for?
« Reply #5 on: 04 May 2009, 23:51:37 »

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Dunno about the petrol jobbies, but my 2.5td has 225k on the clock and sounds and runs spot on.
Properly maintained they should all give seriously high mileage.  :y
3k oil changes are the real key to the tractor, as it does make a mess of its oil quickly, and being chain driven, clean oil is essential.

You can say that again !!  ;D
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Re: 2.5 V6 - How long will they last for?
« Reply #6 on: 05 May 2009, 00:20:39 »

i change the v6s every 4k - 5k with gm 10w40 previous owners BT ran it upto the stupid 20k nonsense! but fortuantly the cambelt snapped on the previous owner at 99k so its had rebuilt heads and ive had it since 106k

my engine makes no silly noises and is as quiet as a whistle i reckon that theres still atleast 200 horses in the stable still ive decided earlier this year that ill keep this MV6 until it dies
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Re: 2.5 V6 - How long will they last for?
« Reply #7 on: 05 May 2009, 00:27:39 »

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Historically it has been every 10K miles and cambelt changed at 80K

Its about to be put in the hands of a resident forum member who I am sure (from what everyone has said about him) will look after it 10 times better than any local garage.
You need to half both those figures above!  :o Cambelt at 40k is a MUST.
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Re: 2.5 V6 - How long will they last for?
« Reply #8 on: 05 May 2009, 00:29:23 »

yes 40k not 80 thats why my omegas belt snapped as BT fleet only cvhanged the belt & not the tensioner!

belt was 1st changed at 80k then 99k tensioner failed!
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Re: 2.5 V6 - How long will they last for?
« Reply #9 on: 05 May 2009, 00:32:21 »

Oh, and my Petrol 3.0 V6 has 117,500 miles.

And my TD which I've just bought has almost 189k on it, and the engine itself is the best bit of the car to be honest!  ;D (now it has a new water pump anyway!) ;D
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Re: 2.5 V6 - How long will they last for?
« Reply #10 on: 05 May 2009, 01:35:10 »

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Oh, and my Petrol 3.0 V6 has 117,500 miles.

And my TD which I've just bought has almost 189k on it, and the engine itself is the best bit of the car to be honest!  ;D (now it has a new water pump anyway!) ;D

Top mount of rear shock corroded through and usual miggy rust issues (bottom of doors and inside rear arches) on my '94 Elite. My '00 has just a little corrosion inside rear arches.
Both engines fine. :y
Actually, if I had to choose between them, I'd say the auto with over 120k more on the clock is a little sweeter  ;D
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Re: 2.5 V6 - How long will they last for?
« Reply #11 on: 05 May 2009, 10:15:02 »

I think the oil change business depends a lot on the oil used and the type of driving.

I have used Mobil 1 in mine ever since the first service. It is expensive, but a lot less expensive than an engine rebuild on one of these beasts.

As a reformed biker, I have always believed in keeping the engine oil fresh, as nothing destroys a close tolerance, high revving engine faster than dirty, low quality oil.

However, with my driving patterns, (very little local use and occasional long distances), I have found that the Mobil 1 stays very clean until it has done at least 7,000 miles. And after nearly 100,000 miles the oil consumption is still virtually zero (i.e. it doesn't usually need topping up between changes).

The 20,000 mile oil change intervals now specified are only possible because of fully synthetic oils such as the Mobil 1, although I suspect they are also driven by environmental and cost saving concerns, and fleet operators (the biggest customers of the motor trade) want to reduce servicing costs.

Putting my cynical hat on, I daresay that GM, Ford, Fiat ( :'() and the others have little interest in their cars being able to run for half a million miles on their original engines either.  ::)

I for one fuly expect to see well cared for Omegas at classic car rallies in twenty or thirty years time, (If I am still around to see them), although the numbers do seem to be declining rapidly already.

So, another question: given that the youngest Omegas were built nearly ten years ago, and there will not be a replacement, which other cars would Omega forum members consider as a possible replacements?

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Re: 2.5 V6 - How long will they last for?
« Reply #12 on: 05 May 2009, 12:30:54 »

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I for one fuly expect to see well cared for Omegas at classic car rallies in twenty or thirty years time,.. ......

The electrickery bits will have died long before that!  ::)  ::)  ::) ;D  ;D  ;D
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Re: 2.5 V6 - How long will they last for?
« Reply #13 on: 05 May 2009, 12:58:16 »

GM 10W40 is the best oil for the Omega

its got detergants & dispersants especially designed for ECOTEC engines it stays clean till 10k but its stil best to change it before and for some reason it doesnt mayo up much!


especially if your engine has a few tired valve lifters


omegas electronics i think are fairly good after 10years /130k of use  the only toy to not work is my passengers heated seat

nextdoor has a Peugeot 605 of similar mileage and age to the omega and no toys work except the aircon & thats half mechanical anyay
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Re: 2.5 V6 - How long will they last for?
« Reply #14 on: 05 May 2009, 13:04:53 »

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Historically it has been every 10K miles and cambelt changed at 80K

Its about to be put in the hands of a resident forum member who I am sure (from what everyone has said about him) will look after it 10 times better than any local garage.

I would say that 10,000 mile oil changes are not enough Gareth. I also do my oil and filter religiously every 3,000 miles, the old fella down the road used to have my old oil for his car ;D
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