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[Jimbob]

i must admit i hug the middle lane


but at 90mph where i can

if i come to a car that is only doing 50/60mph in the middle lane and the slow lane is clear i get the lights flashing to get them over
i hate it having to break for people doing 50mph on the motorway
if they can't do the motorway speeds they should not be on the motorway in the first place

One day you will do that to the wrong person

we have one member who drives an unmarked car, and has been known to use the blues when he shouldnt, you never know who the car in front / behind is, there are an awful lot of innocent looking cars that arent out there.  

[ScottieMV6]

i must admit i hug the middle lane


but at 90mph where i can

.......

but you're supposed to 'keep left' what ever speed you're doing.

Correct!!

And there is no such thing as a fast lane or a slow lane!!  

[nick v6]

i must admit i hug the middle lane


but at 90mph where i can

if i come to a car that is only doing 50/60mph in the middle lane and the slow lane is clear i get the lights flashing to get them over
i hate it having to break for people doing 50mph on the motorway
if they can't do the motorway speeds they should not be on the motorway in the first place

One day you will do that to the wrong person

we have one member who drives an unmarked car, and has been known to use the blues when he shouldnt, you never know who the car in front / behind is, there are an awful lot of innocent looking cars that arent out there.  

i dont flash those lights

[Jimbob]

you not talking about the 'special ones' you were using at York?

Misunderstood then

Aint worth the hassle in my mind, lane hogging arseholes wont / dont learn, just pull over and overtake....and pull back straight to lane 1.

Lifes to short to let idiots like them get you down, far too much real stuff to worry about.

[KillerWatt]

if i come to a car that is only doing 50/60mph in the middle lane and the slow lane is clear i get the lights flashing to get them over
i hate it having to break for people doing 50mph on the motorway
if they can't do the motorway speeds they should not be on the motorway in the first place

You ever stopped to think they may be doing 50 for a reason?

For example....
They could have just passed their test, and are possibly nervous at higher speeds.
They could be elderly, and have therefore adjusted their driving style to suit their reactions.
etc, etc.

If people worried more about themselves instead of trying to issue summary justice in the form of "getting right up their arse, headlights on main beam, and hand pressed firmly on the horn for 3 minutes non stop", I expect there would be considerably less accidents than what there are at present.


PS

The above ain't a pop at you by the way Nick, but some of the $hit I've read on this thread really gets on my tits.
 

[Omega man 2]

if i come to a car that is only doing 50/60mph in the middle lane and the slow lane is clear i get the lights flashing to get them over
i hate it having to break for people doing 50mph on the motorway
if they can't do the motorway speeds they should not be on the motorway in the first place

You ever stopped to think they may be doing 50 for a reason?

For example....
They could have just passed their test, and are possibly nervous at higher speeds.
They could be elderly, and have therefore adjusted their driving style to suit their reactions.
etc, etc.

If people worried more about themselves instead of trying to issue summary justice in the form of "getting right up their arse, headlights on main beam, and hand pressed firmly on the horn for 3 minutes non stop", I expect there would be considerably less accidents than what there are at present.


PS

The above ain't a pop at you by the way Nick, but some of the $hit I've read on this thread really gets on my tits.
 

In that case they should be sitting doing 50 in the left lane

[Andy B]

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In that case they should be sitting doing 50 in the left lane

Or even the local A or B road!  

[NaughtyNigel]

i must admit i hug the middle lane


but at 90mph where i can

.......

but you're supposed to 'keep left' what ever speed you're doing.

... And you are far less likely to attract the unwanted attentions of PC Plod if you are driving in the left hand lane than the overtaking lane - whatever your speed.

Much of the problem is that Plod sees these 'middle lane hoggers' as 'safe drivers', as they drive well inside the speed limit and force other drivers to do the same. The fact that they force other drivers to break the law is a bonus to them, as it increases fine revenue.  

Another problem is that driving in the left hand lane needs more brain power, as there will be more vehicles to overtake, and without thinking ahead it is easy to end up stuck behind a slow moving truck whilst white vans and Reps in Mondeos stream past, unwilling to let anyone into the middle lane (just in case you get to their customer before they do - perhaps ?).  

NN

[hotel21]

i must admit i hug the middle lane


but at 90mph where i can

.......

but you're supposed to 'keep left' what ever speed you're doing.

... And you are far less likely to attract the unwanted attentions of PC Plod if you are driving in the left hand lane than the overtaking lane - whatever your speed.

Much of the problem is that Plod sees these 'middle lane hoggers' as 'safe drivers', as they drive well inside the speed limit and force other drivers to do the same. The fact that they force other drivers to break the law is a bonus to them, as it increases fine revenue.  

Another problem is that driving in the left hand lane needs more brain power, as there will be more vehicles to overtake, and without thinking ahead it is easy to end up stuck behind a slow moving truck whilst white vans and Reps in Mondeos stream past, unwilling to let anyone into the middle lane (just in case you get to their customer before they do - perhaps ?).  

NN

Ref the highlighted part - utter, pure, unadulterated 'dangle berries', in my opinion.  

Trafpol/Police purpose is, in general, road safety and the keeping of the highways and trunk routes free flowing, with the widest safety margins for all.

To think that middle lane hogging is encouraged in order to increase camera revenue is as sad as it is deluded....
  

[hotel21]

My take on this emotive subject.

The Highway Code.  Whilst not 'law' per se, it is the guidelines that Police and Court take into consideration when reviewing the standard of driving of a case.

Overtaking  rule 267
Do not overtake unless you are sure it is safe and legal to do so. Overtake only on the right. You should:-
check your mirrors,  
take time to judge the speeds correctly,
make sure that the lane you will be joining is sufficiently clear ahead and behind,
take a quick sideways glance into the blind spot area to verify the position of a vehicle that may have disappeared from your view in the mirror,
remember that traffic may be coming up behind you very quickly.

Check all your mirrors carefully. Look out for motorcyclists. When it is safe to do so, signal in plenty of time, then move out.  Ensure you do not cut in on the vehicle you have overtaken.
Be especially careful at night and in poor visibility when it is harder to judge speed and distance.

rule 268
Do not overtake on the left or move to a lane on your left to overtake. In congested conditions, where adjacent lanes of traffic are moving at similar speeds, traffic in left-hand lanes may sometimes be moving faster than traffic to the right. In these conditions you may keep up with the traffic in your lane even if this means passing traffic in the lane to your right. Do not weave in and out of lanes to overtake.

A couple of things there.

Congested conditions is not a queue of one.  It means city commute type traffic, travelling at less than 30 or so, not busy roads where all lanes are full but travelling at circa 60 - 80!!

Bottom line, drive safely and be considerate of other road users.  Some plonkers may well spoil your day by hogging a lane, changing lanes without checking mirrors or using indicators, brake suddenly for no reason etc etc etc.  It means look after number one - yourself - by ensuring that your driving standards are better than those you are critical of.    

[platty]

What really frustrates me on this matter is that the Highways Agency throw these massive fancy signs up on the side of the road and display gems such as:

"DON'T DRINK AND DRIVE"

Is it not a bit late if you are driving down the motorway pissed?


When there are no accident notices, traffic updates etc., why not have the signs displaying:

"STAY IN LEFT LANE UNLESS OVERTAKING"

Would this not go some way to highlighting the problem of these middle-lane driver, whom I honestly believe don't even realise that they are doing it.

Just my 2p  

[Andy B]

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To think that middle lane hogging is encouraged in order to increase camera revenue is as sad as it is deluded....
  

I have seen someone pulled, presumably, for hogging the middle lane of the M4 ..... that was looooooong before Gatsos.  

[Andy B]

......
., why not have the signs displaying:

"STAY IN LEFT LAND UNLESS OVERTAKING" ......

I'm sure I've already seen that ...... A1/M1?

[hotel21]

......
., why not have the signs displaying:

"STAY IN LEFT LAND UNLESS OVERTAKING" ......

I'm sure I've already seen that ...... A1/M1?

Regularly used on the M/ways up here....  

[hotel21]

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To think that middle lane hogging is encouraged in order to increase camera revenue is as sad as it is deluded....
  

I have seen someone pulled, presumably, for hogging the middle lane of the M4 ..... that was looooooong before Gatsos.  

I should have said for any revenue purpose, not just static camera's....