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[Nickbat]

The EU has to be one of the world's most undemocratic organisations. It's no use saying that we need to encourage them to make changes, as the mainstream parties often say. We either get out, or pull the whole thing to pieces and start again.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/5362190/Eighteen-phantom-MEPs-will-do-no-work-for-two-years.html

It's one huge gravy train. 

[tunnie]

yeh but they have that Kilroy Silk guy or what ever his name is, vote BNP! 

[crazyjoetavola]

The EU has to be one of the world's most undemocratic organisations. It's no use saying that we need to encourage them to make changes, as the mainstream parties often say. We either get out, or pull the whole thing to pieces and start again.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/5362190/Eighteen-phantom-MEPs-will-do-no-work-for-two-years.html

It's one huge gravy train. 

Train, Nick? it's a leviathan which urgently needs to be stopped.  I would maybe have a bit more confidence in UKIP if I was sure that that had got their act together. :-/ :-/ 

Irrespective, we urgently need some form answer to this bloated, corrupt and incompetent monster

I'm not sure how practical it would be to bail out, but at the very least the next UK administration should have the balls to start saying - 'No, that particular arrangement doesn't suit'  What's Brussels going to do, threaten to expel us, apply sanctions?  I would bet not  

[HolyCount]

The EU has to be one of the world's most undemocratic organisations. It's no use saying that we need to encourage them to make changes, as the mainstream parties often say. We either get out, or pull the whole thing to pieces and start again.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/5362190/Eighteen-phantom-MEPs-will-do-no-work-for-two-years.html

It's one huge gravy train. 

Train, Nick? it's a leviathan which urgently needs to be stopped.  I would maybe have a bit more confidence in UKIP if I was sure that that had got their act together. :-/ :-/ 

Irrespective, we urgently need some form answer to this bloated, corrupt and incompetent monster

I'm not sure how practical it would be to bail out, but at the very least the next UK administration should have the balls to start saying - 'No, that particular arrangement doesn't suit'  What's Brussels going to do, threaten to expel us, apply sanctions?  I would bet not  

It seems to work for other members !  It's about time we remembered we are GREAT Britain, we won two world wars and ruled an Empire. We are being ground down from the inside.

[crazyjoetavola]

The EU has to be one of the world's most undemocratic organisations. It's no use saying that we need to encourage them to make changes, as the mainstream parties often say. We either get out, or pull the whole thing to pieces and start again.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/5362190/Eighteen-phantom-MEPs-will-do-no-work-for-two-years.html

It's one huge gravy train. 

Train, Nick? it's a leviathan which urgently needs to be stopped.  I would maybe have a bit more confidence in UKIP if I was sure that that had got their act together. :-/ :-/ 

Irrespective, we urgently need some form answer to this bloated, corrupt and incompetent monster

I'm not sure how practical it would be to bail out, but at the very least the next UK administration should have the balls to start saying - 'No, that particular arrangement doesn't suit'  What's Brussels going to do, threaten to expel us, apply sanctions?  I would bet not  

It seems to work for other members !  It's about time we remembered we are GREAT Britain, we won two world wars and ruled an Empire. We are being ground down from the inside.

HC, you've banged that one clear out of the ground

[Nickbat]

yeh but they have that Kilroy Silk guy or what ever his name is, vote BNP! 

He left UKIP in 2005!!

He then started up Veritas,and remains a member of the Veritas Party, but sits as an Independent MEP ('cos Veritas don't like him much, either!).

[crazyjoetavola]

yeh but they have that Kilroy Silk guy or what ever his name is, vote BNP! 

He left UKIP in 2005!!

He then started up Veritas,and remains a member of the Veritas Party, but sits as an Independent MEP ('cos Veritas don't like him much, either!).

Can you really fault them for that Nick?

[crazyjoetavola]

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iI13MUf7XVY&feature=related[/media]

This is who we are and no amount of sharp practice and slight of hand from Brussels should blind us to it

[crazyjoetavola]

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPy6FJhd2vg&feature=related[/media]

........ and this is where we should be looking to before Brussels

[Andy B]

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........ and this is where we should be looking to before Brussels

Makes you proud to be British!!     

[Vamps]

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........ and this is where we should be looking to before Brussels

Makes you proud to be British!!     

I will second that but I fear we are losing our identity, from within and Internationally......

[Andy B]

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I will second that but I fear we are losing our identity, from within and Internationally......

To many do-gooders telling us what we should be doing & thinking. While I may not always agree with the actions of the French, you've got to admire the fact they put themselves first before every other Johnny Foreigner. They were widely condemned for banning religeous skull caps etc, but they stood by their actions. Look at all the full when Sraw suggested that veils shuld not be worn at his surgeries!

[Welung666]

I'm getting more and more anti-europe by the second and edging toward the smaller 'British' parties. I still stand by something I've always said and that is how this country will eventually kick itself for not listening to Enoch Powell!

[Banjax]

I'm getting more and more anti-europe by the second and edging toward the smaller 'British' parties. I still stand by something I've always said and that is how this country will eventually kick itself for not listening to Enoch Powell!

thats like saying you'd rather we lost WW2 to hitler 

some comments beggar belief - Enoch Powell was a small minded Nazi who was rightly condemned, ridiculed and ostracized after his "rivers of blood" speech. I can't believe, after all this country has fought for - you'd want some swivel-eyed loon-ball fascist's ideas of society.
un-$%@£@-believable 

[Richie London]

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........ and this is where we should be looking to before Brussels

Makes you proud to be British!!     

i will never be british, im english and refuse to be called british as it now stands for every nationality thats come to live here.