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[cem_devecioglu]

20% for Magna
35% Russians
35% GM
10% Workers

8500 workers will loose their jobs

[Ziad]

Ouch! That hurts! 

[cem_devecioglu]

so many things will change.. :-/

[Omega man 2]

Does this mean that opels ans vauxhalls will be different? :-/ :-/

[cem_devecioglu]

Does this mean that opels ans vauxhalls will be different? :-/ :-/

early to say something..but it says opel will produce Gaz models also :-?

[STMO123]

I can understand the sympathy with the job losses, but.......................
Why are you so worried about GM/Opel/Vauxhall as a going concern?
Read almost any post on the forum and vauxhall are ripped to bits for their incompetence. The cars that manufacturers make now are all just clones of each other, aerodynamic little wedges that do 50mpg. The car that you all care about on this forum will not be affected at all. You still wont be able to get the parts and, when you do, you'll have to bend over to pay for them.

There is over capacity and something has got to give. Lets face it...the Japanese make the best cars anyway. (Runs for cover)

[cem_devecioglu]

I can understand the sympathy with the job losses, but.......................
Why are you so worried about GM/Opel/Vauxhall as a going concern?
Read almost any post on the forum and vauxhall are ripped to bits for their incompetence. The cars that manufacturers make now are all just clones of each other, aerodynamic little wedges that do 50mpg. The car that you all care about on this forum will not be affected at all. You still wont be able to get the parts and, when you do, 1 you'll have to bend over to pay for them.
There is over capacity and something has got to give. Lets face it...the Japanese make the best cars anyway. (2 Runs for cover)

1. We have been bending for over ages as a car owner 

2. You are telling the truth   Lets run both for cover

[Omega man 2]

I can understand the sympathy with the job losses, but.......................
Why are you so worried about GM/Opel/Vauxhall as a going concern?
Read almost any post on the forum and vauxhall are ripped to bits for their incompetence. The cars that manufacturers make now are all just clones of each other, aerodynamic little wedges that do 50mpg. The car that you all care about on this forum will not be affected at all. You still wont be able to get the parts and, when you do, you'll have to bend over to pay for them.

There is over capacity and something has got to give. Lets face it...the Japanese make the best cars anyway. (Runs for cover)

Yank cars are the best , When was the last time you seen jap crap from the 50/60/70's ?

[cem_devecioglu]

I can understand the sympathy with the job losses, but.......................
Why are you so worried about GM/Opel/Vauxhall as a going concern?
Read almost any post on the forum and vauxhall are ripped to bits for their incompetence. The cars that manufacturers make now are all just clones of each other, aerodynamic little wedges that do 50mpg. The car that you all care about on this forum will not be affected at all. You still wont be able to get the parts and, when you do, you'll have to bend over to pay for them.

There is over capacity and something has got to give. Lets face it...the Japanese make the best cars anyway. (Runs for cover)

Yank cars are the best , When was the last time you seen jap crap from the 50/60/70's ?

let the 70 models you cant find a part even for 90 models Japanese cars here :-/

off for sometime as friends come to visit..

[STMO123]

I can understand the sympathy with the job losses, but.......................
Why are you so worried about GM/Opel/Vauxhall as a going concern?
Read almost any post on the forum and vauxhall are ripped to bits for their incompetence. The cars that manufacturers make now are all just clones of each other, aerodynamic little wedges that do 50mpg. The car that you all care about on this forum will not be affected at all. You still wont be able to get the parts and, when you do, you'll have to bend over to pay for them.

There is over capacity and something has got to give. Lets face it...the Japanese make the best cars anyway. (Runs for cover)

Yank cars are the best , When was the last time you seen jap crap from the 50/60/70's ?

Yanks make the best cars for car nuts. Unfortunately, car nuts buy very few cars, and when they do, they're usually about 20 years old. The manufacturers that will survive are the ones that can sell thousands of vehicles to fleet managers, who will be more interested in mpg and time off road for repairs than beauty.

[Martin_1962]

My concern is still Holden as I want a VXR8 in about 5 years when the prices drop

[crazyjoetavola]

20% for Magna
35% Russians
35% GM
10% Workers

8500 workers will loose their jobs

That's the part which merits further examination cem

[Varche]

I wonder if it will all just be smoke and mirrors.

I have a justified deep mistrust of the US chapter 11 process after what happened with ntl telecoms company.

At the end of the day, there are still too many cars being made for too few punters and they aren't the right sort of cars. About 30 miles from us an absolutely huge area the size of a country was cleared and laid to Tarmac and is now chocker with brand new SEAT's.

I still believe that a fortune could be made by making simple , attractive cars that are economical and can easily be adapted with and for the latest technology.   

varche

[crazyjoetavola]

I wonder if it will all just be smoke and mirrors.

I have a justified deep mistrust of the US chapter 11 process after what happened with ntl telecoms company.

At the end of the day, there are  About 30 miles from us an absolutely huge area the size of a country was cleared and laid to Tarmac and is now chocker with brand new SEAT's.

I still believe that a fortune could be made by making simple , attractive cars that are economical and can easily be adapted with and for the latest technology.   

varche

still too many cars being made for too few punters and they aren't the right sort of cars.


......an affliction that the industry will have to address - however painful



simple , attractive cars that are economical and can easily be adapted with and for the latest technology

.....but then that would put the requirement for expanded and imaginative thinking ahead of the lust for naked profit - really Varache, how could you!

[cem_devecioglu]

I can understand the sympathy with the job losses, but.......................
Why are you so worried about GM/Opel/Vauxhall as a going concern?
Read almost any post on the forum and vauxhall are ripped to bits for their incompetence. The cars that manufacturers make now are all just clones of each other, aerodynamic little wedges that do 50mpg. The car that you all care about on this forum will not be affected at all. You still wont be able to get the parts and, when you do, you'll have to bend over to pay for them.

There is over capacity and something has got to give. Lets face it...the Japanese make the best cars anyway. (Runs for cover)

Yank cars are the best , When was the last time you seen jap crap from the 50/60/70's ?

Yanks make the best cars for car nuts. Unfortunately, car nuts buy very few cars, and when they do, they're usually about 20 years old. The manufacturers that will survive are the ones that can sell thousands of vehicles to fleet managers, who will be more interested in mpg and time off road for repairs than beauty.

agreed..