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[Lizzie_Zoom]

In the South East I just consider we should all buy boats, even when I am on the third floor!!

If the climatic effects do not overwhelm us, then the 'tipping' of the country will!

In the mean time make merry, enjoy the sun, have bbq's and go for long drives with the air con on using your V6 engines to the full!

Tomorrow.......who knows!!  We could have an ice age. 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)

Just keep recycling what you can and avoid waste

[crazyjoetavola]

In the South East I just consider we should all buy boats, even when I am on the third floor!!

If the climatic effects do not overwhelm us, then the 'tipping' of the country will!

In the mean time make merry, enjoy the sun, have bbq's and go for long drives with the air con on using your V6 engines to the full!

Tomorrow.......who knows!!  We could have an ice age. 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)

Just keep recycling what you can and avoid waste

Sage words indeed Ms Zoom

[cem_devecioglu]

This year we had the greatest rains (frequent)  in spring that whole out my life I dont see in my city :-?

Solar energy emission change effects on earth (also which is already dependant on the earths orbit that also changes) is 10^x times effective than the co2 effects recently..

Another good example is irregular sun storms, even can have many times bigger effect..

if you watched the film "Knowing" its clearly visible that sun can bbq our arses anytime..

Seriously, question is :

who is using this global warming fear and for what reason ?

another question is when the fossil fuels are over what will happen (I dont count the wars ) :-/

[M0T0RVATE]

This year we had the greatest rains (frequent)  in spring that whole out my life I dont see in my city :-?

Solar energy emission change effects on earth (also which is already dependant on the earths orbit that also changes) is 10^x times effective than the co2 effects recently..

Another good example is irregular sun storms, even can have many times bigger effect..

if you watched the film "Knowing" its clearly visible that sun can bbq our arses anytime..

Seriously, question is :

who is using this global warming fear and for what reason ?

another question is when the fossil fuels are over what will happen (I dont count the wars ) :-/

Yes cem, the sun affects the Earths atmosphere more than co2...
Co2 levels are lower now than say 200 years ago...

Global warming fear is another political/governmental manipulation...
Purpose - control, taxation revenues, etc...

Heres an interesting link from the scientific viewpoint, based on fact and truth...

http://www.friendsofscience.org/

  :ya

[cem_devecioglu]

This year we had the greatest rains (frequent)  in spring that whole out my life I dont see in my city :-?

Solar energy emission change effects on earth (also which is already dependant on the earths orbit that also changes) is 10^x times effective than the co2 effects recently..

Another good example is irregular sun storms, even can have many times bigger effect..

if you watched the film "Knowing" its clearly visible that sun can bbq our arses anytime..

Seriously, question is :

who is using this global warming fear and for what reason ?

another question is when the fossil fuels are over what will happen (I dont count the wars ) :-/

Yes cem, the sun affects the Earths atmosphere more than co2...
Co2 levels are lower now than say 200 years ago...

Global warming fear is another political/governmental manipulation...
Purpose - control, taxation revenues, etc...

Heres an interesting link from the scientific viewpoint, bsed on fact and truth...

http://www.friendsofscience.org/

 

 I bet our govt s number #1 for taxation..dont need any reason..point you the gun and say "gimme the money"

[Omegatoy]

totally agree on recycling issues and am a fervent believer in making cars last as long as possible owing to the exhorbitant amount of energy the production of a new one consumes, but hey the older cars have
 a, more character,
B are more economical the more miles they do and they longer they last in costs of energy
C .take any car you like produced say fifteen or even twenty or thirty  years ago and put against a new one today and engine size the same in the 2 cars and the new ones are no more economical in mpg terms at all so whats the point of changing fora new car???

All good comments so far guys we know we are being ripped off over global warming when will they get it through thier thick heads we know they are just using it as a excuse to raise taxes and we wont stand for it

[Martin_1962]

We recycle a lot, compost vegetable matter, try to lower our power consumption.


All of it for sensible reasons, nothing to do with GW.

I dislike landfill.

I hate the way power is wasted

[M0T0RVATE]

totally agree on recycling issues and am a fervent believer in making cars last as long as possible owing to the exhorbitant amount of energy the production of a new one consumes, but hey the older cars have
 a, more character,
B are more economical the more miles they do and they longer they last in costs of energy
C .take any car you like produced say fifteen or even twenty or thirty  years ago and put against a new one today and engine size the same in the 2 cars and the new ones are no more economical in mpg terms at all so whats the point of changing fora new car???

All good comments so far guys we know we are being ripped off over global warming when will they get it through thier thick heads we know they are just using it as a excuse to raise taxes and we wont stand for it

[/highlight]

And yet car manufacturers have been, and will continue to produce cars to be "obsolete" in 5 years, and are not obliged to supply spare parts after ten years...a stark contradiction of the claimed energy/resources wastage... :exclamation

Some of us know, some care, most don't know and dont care - this is the reason people are manipulated and ultimately controlled...

 

[Omegatoy]

totally agree on recycling issues and am a fervent believer in making cars last as long as possible owing to the exhorbitant amount of energy the production of a new one consumes, but hey the older cars have
 a, more character,
B are more economical the more miles they do and they longer they last in costs of energy
C .take any car you like produced say fifteen or even twenty or thirty  years ago and put against a new one today and engine size the same in the 2 cars and the new ones are no more economical in mpg terms at all so whats the point of changing fora new car???

All good comments so far guys we know we are being ripped off over global warming when will they get it through thier thick heads we know they are just using it as a excuse to raise taxes and we wont stand for it

[/highlight]

And yet car manufacturers have been, and will continue to produce cars to be "obsolete" in 5 years, and are not obliged to supply spare parts after ten years...a stark contradiction of the claimed energy/resources wastage... :exclamation

Some of us know, some care, most don't know and dont care - this is the reason people are manipulated and ultimately controlled...

 

totally agree mate but the only way to force them to continue making spares for the older cars is by not buying boring new ones!!

[crazyjoetavola]

ahh - the Heartland Institute and FOX news - two more balanced, scientific and august bodies it would be impossible to find 

Need we say more bannjaxx

[crazyjoetavola]

We recycle a lot, compost vegetable matter, try to lower our power consumption.


All of it for sensible reasons, nothing to do with GW.

I dislike landfill.

I hate the way power is wasted

And that is the commonsense and practical way to approach this Martin

[Banjax]

ahh - the Heartland Institute and FOX news - two more balanced, scientific and august bodies it would be impossible to find 

Need we say more bannjaxx

i fear we may zulu - be careful who tells you what they want you to hear - difficult to separate fact from fiction as previous debates on climate change will attest  :-?

[crazyjoetavola]

This year we had the greatest rains (frequent)  in spring that whole out my life I dont see in my city :-?

Solar energy emission change effects on earth (also which is already dependant on the earths orbit that also changes) is 10^x times effective than the co2 effects recently..

Another good example is irregular sun storms, even can have many times bigger effect..

if you watched the film "Knowing" its clearly visible that sun can bbq our arses anytime..

Seriously, question is :

who is using this global warming fear and for what reason ?

another question is when the fossil fuels are over what will happen (I dont count the wars ) :-/

As you say cem, the sun is the dominant factor in this and although sun spot and solar activity is relatively quiescent at the moment, there is great potential for extreme damage to this planet when that cyclic activity increases once more 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) - as it will

Big business and dark political forces stand to gain much from this attempted realignment. That gain embraces the financial reward of such activity but more importantly the undue global influence exerted in the political arena over the many by the few

Finally if, by the time it is no longer financially viable to extract fossil fuel, there is no alternative to hand, the disintegration of 'civilised' existence, in the most generally accepted sense, will make war seem to be the least of our problems

[crazyjoetavola]

ahh - the Heartland Institute and FOX news - two more balanced, scientific and august bodies it would be impossible to find 

Need we say more bannjaxx

i fear we may zulu - be careful who tells you what they want you to hear - difficult to separate fact from fiction as previous debates on climate change will attest  :-?


Exactly bannjaxx and I wonder just who would stand to gain from all this obfuscation and scientific double speak   It's not so much a case of divide and conquer but more a case of fill as many heads full of conflicting, often unprovable information, and carry on with the real agenda

[Nickbat]

ahh - the Heartland Institute and FOX news - two more balanced, scientific and august bodies it would be impossible to find 

More balanced than the IPCC.