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[Varche]

Tsar. 

[Kevin Wood]

That’s perhaps the natural result of the disillusionment evident in the voting public frustrated and angry with the chaos and incompetence which this administration has shown.

What we can’t be sure about however, Kevin, is what sort of job of it their replacements would make. :-/ :-/

There is a fundamental fault , a lack of understanding, a complete disconnect in most of our legislators with practical reality, now being faced by a lot of people throughout the country, as they struggle in the confused and convoluted environment that is modern Britain.

Until there is a properly accountable system to which our administrators must adhere, there can be no real change.  Until there are strong sanctions – real sanctions – for misbehaviour, it will be difficult to have any degree of confidence in the belief that the system of government, this country needs, is likely to recover its dignity, its vision and above all, its decency

Agreed. I'm not saying the system isn't broken. Our political cycle starts with an election process which doesn't really instil much accountability into MPs from the start, for a variety of reasons, and from then on they are largely serving nobody but themselves and their own careers until we end up, a decade down the line, with the situation we have now. An utterly unfit-for-purpose rabble and no viable opposition, but an electorate voting because "They can't be any worse".

Kevin

[crazyjoetavola]

That’s perhaps the natural result of the disillusionment evident in the voting public frustrated and angry with the chaos and incompetence which this administration has shown.

What we can’t be sure about however, Kevin, is what sort of job of it their replacements would make. :-/ :-/

There is a fundamental fault , a lack of understanding, a complete disconnect in most of our legislators with practical reality, now being faced by a lot of people throughout the country, as they struggle in the confused and convoluted environment that is modern Britain.

Until there is a properly accountable system to which our administrators must adhere, there can be no real change.  Until there are strong sanctions – real sanctions – for misbehaviour, it will be difficult to have any degree of confidence in the belief that the system of government, this country needs, is likely to recover its dignity, its vision and above all, its decency

Agreed. I'm not saying the system isn't broken. Our political cycle starts with an election process which doesn't really instil much accountability into MPs from the start, for a variety of reasons, and from then on they are largely serving nobody but themselves and their own careers until we end up, a decade down the line, with the situation we have now. An utterly unfit-for-purpose rabble and no viable opposition, but an electorate voting because "They can't be any worse".

Kevin

...... and that is very much the rub, Kevin

How that cycle can be broken -  I really don't know at the moment :-/ but its interruption, at the very least, is urgently required

[Martin_1962]

chances of that universally liked fellow Mandelson being labour PM??!!

Not enough for him. I fully expect him to slime himself into the Monarchy somehow and become King.

Kevin

Or Queen

[crazyjoetavola]

chances of that universally liked fellow Mandelson being labour PM??!!

Not enough for him. I fully expect him to slime himself into the Monarchy somehow and become King.

Kevin

Or Queen

  priceless, Martin 

[Martin_1962]

The next Labour leader after the election will be either the chap on Question Time a couple of weeks ago, or Hillary Benn.

Both have been seen to be clean and both are young enough to get the kiddy vote

Lib Dems NEED Charles Kennedy back.

As to Conservatives, they have realised that Ken Clark is worth having around as he was generally popular.

[Kevin Wood]

chances of that universally liked fellow Mandelson being labour PM??!!

Not enough for him. I fully expect him to slime himself into the Monarchy somehow and become King.

Kevin

Or Queen

He's already one of those. 

Kevin

[crazyjoetavola]

The next Labour leader after the election will be either the chap on Question Time a couple of weeks ago, or Hillary Benn.

Both have been seen to be clean and both are young enough to get the kiddy vote

Lib Dems NEED Charles Kennedy back.

As to Conservatives, they have realised that Ken Clark is worth having around as he was generally popular.

Lib Dems


Can their appeal be sufficiently sweet for the mainstream vote to divert from the big two however?  Can Kennedy ever hope to establish his dependable credentials again?:-/ :-/


Ken Clark

The unfortunate thing about Ken is he reveals, in all its bare-assed glory, the lingering conflict within the Tory party over Europe ........
............not that the conflict is without justifiable foundation I must add:y

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Well I have voted today, and that will be hopefully one of many nails to further the "get rid of Brown" coffin!

[size=24]Have you voted yet?? [/size]

[omegarob]

Well I have voted today, and that will be hopefully one of many nails to further the "get rid of Brown" coffin!

[size=24]Have you voted yet?? [/size]

no. not going to..

[crazyjoetavola]

Well I have voted today, and that will be hopefully one of many nails to further the "get rid of Brown" coffin!

[size=24]Have you voted yet?? [/size]

These following words have as much relevance today as they did when first spoken, especially when we stand to exercise our democratic right.......

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8vm6AsZw40[/media]

[omegarob]

that man is a leader of all men. a peacemaker, who have we to vote in. thats why i dont bother..

[Varche]

Hm. No I haven't voted.

I am on the electoral register here. Got a letter some weeks ago confirming my details. Just been waiting for my card to turn up. It hasn't as of today. I cannot imagine having much success even if I knew where the voting station was, in turning up and saying "can I vote but haven't got my card".  I would probably get fined or jailed.

voteless varche

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Well I have voted today, and that will be hopefully one of many nails to further the "get rid of Brown" coffin!

[size=24]Have you voted yet?? [/size]

These following words have as much relevance today as they did when first spoken, especially when we stand to exercise our democratic right.......

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8vm6AsZw40[/media]

A very thought provoking speech Zulu, that should remind us all that human life is short for the individual, but for our species has been a long and painful journey through experiences to test our resolve. 
 
It has not, and never will, be an easy run, either physically, socially, politically or spiritually. We will continually be challenged by seemingly over-whelming odds, but what makes man is that ability to rise up, meet, and exceed the demands placed on us by the forces within the universe.  The human species will only die when all endevour and spirit is forced out of us collectively by apathy or surrender to the perceived inevitable.  We must fight on as past generations have, and as futures ones will as well.

Today we are politically challenged, so let us all work together to bring about change; change which is for the good of all, that only a majority in a democratic system can produce.   

[LaserLance]

Well I have voted today, and that will be hopefully one of many nails to further the "get rid of Brown" coffin!

[size=24]Have you voted yet?? [/size]

These following words have as much relevance today as they did when first spoken, especially when we stand to exercise our democratic right.......

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8vm6AsZw40[/media]

A very thought provoking speech Zulu, that should remind us all that human life is short for the individual, but for our species has been a long and painful journey through experiences to test our resolve. 
 
It has not, and never will, be an easy run, either physically, socially, politically or spiritually. We will continually be challenged by seemingly over-whelming odds, but what makes man is that ability to rise up, meet, and exceed the demands placed on us by the forces within the universe.  The human species will only die when all endevour and spirit is forced out of us collectively by apathy or surrender to the perceived inevitable.  We must fight on as past generations have, and as futures ones will as well.

Today we are politically challenged, so let us all work together to bring about change; change which is for the good of all, that only a majority in a democratic system can produce.   

Another thought provoking comment from every OOF's favourite political anaylist  Vote Lizzie for PM at least she's got experience of life and work unlike 1/2 of those idiots who pretend to be our elected legislators