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[Lizzie_Zoom]

Well I pay enough for BT phone line and broadband package, which must incorporate research & development within their costings, so I think it is a bloody cheek to expect me to pay even 50p  per month......on principle!

[TheBoy]

Well I pay enough for BT phone line and broadband package, which must incorporate research & development within their costings, so I think it is a bloody cheek to expect me to pay even 50p  per month......on principle!

Sadly, its not BT/VM/AcmeTelco, its the bunch of gay incompitents in Westminster.  BT/VM/AcmeTelecom will be the ones having to collect it.

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Well I pay enough for BT phone line and broadband package, which must incorporate research & development within their costings, so I think it is a bloody cheek to expect me to pay even 50p  per month......on principle!

Sadly, its not BT/VM/AcmeTelco, its the bunch of gay incompitents in Westminster.  BT/VM/AcmeTelecom will be the ones having to collect it.

Yes, you are right of course TB.   More of our money going get wasted!

[Gareth Lewis]

True Mr Pace but it gets very cold (have seen minus 10 on the car) in winter.

So, I will go away and weigh up the pros and cons!

yep better here with dial up (just)

 

It would be better with crank handle or hamster running in a wheel than being here!!

[TheBoy]

Is now a good time to say my MaxDSL (up to 8Mb) is synced at over 7Mb (3.5km line length)

[crazyjoetavola]

Surely it should go on the ISP? Why should little old granny have to pay for it, probably ain't got a 'puter.

Sorry, but if you chose to live in the back end of nowhere, thats your choice. Accept your 512k speeds. Or move.

....I have chosen and accepted a long time ago - however it's a bit rich that I'm only getting aroung .5 meg, 2.5 miles distant from the exchange.

Another stealth tax from the experts who couldn't organise a piss-up in a brewery.

[crazyjoetavola]

Surely it should go on the ISP? Why should little old granny have to pay for it, probably ain't got a 'puter.

Sorry, but if you chose to live in the back end of nowhere, thats your choice. Accept your 512k speeds. Or move.

There are quite a few parts of the country that don't have broadband, and they ain't the back of beyond either.

If anybody needs the kick up the backside, it should be BT.

....a kick up the backside Killer? - have you gone soft? The entire organisation should be bitch-slapped into the middle of next week - and then some.

A prime example of the bloated, money-grabbing shambles of an outfit that passes for an answer to our technological needs for the coming century.

[crazyjoetavola]

Surely it should go on the ISP? Why should little old granny have to pay for it, probably ain't got a 'puter.

Sorry, but if you chose to live in the back end of nowhere, thats your choice. Accept your 512k speeds. Or move.

There are quite a few parts of the country that don't have broadband, and they ain't the back of beyond either.

If anybody needs the kick up the backside, it should be BT.

Why BT? Why not Virgin? Tiscali? Your beloved Be/O2?

None of them will do it becuase its commercial suicide!

BT have been better than most in getting decent speed broadband to many, but at the end of the day, its a private company who's out to make money for its shareholders.

....and there's the problem TB, that's why we are in the dark ages concerning this and that's where we will remain, as the bottom line will always be - shareholders before R&D and subscribers. 

A prime example of everything that's bad about a monopoly business.

[crazyjoetavola]

Well I pay enough for BT phone line and broadband package, which must incorporate research & development within their costings, so I think it is a bloody cheek to expect me to pay even 50p  per month......on principle!

Sadly, its not BT/VM/AcmeTelco, its the bunch of gay incompitents in Westminster. BT/VM/AcmeTelecom will be the ones having to collect it.

...indeed TB New Labour at its most cunning and disingenuous self.

[crazyjoetavola]

I feel rather the better for that, thank you

[Varche]

Of course it is another daft tax on a lot of already poor pensioners with their fixed (lifeline) line.

I think the argument is well made that Britain needs universal broadband access and not just in the connurbations. How else will people be able to while away their unemployed hours?

Those pensioners will get scant benefit from it particularly if they aren't on the Internet.

I think Britain is reaping the rewards of the deregulation of the telecoms industry which showed a remarkable lack of forward planning. Bucks today beggar tomorrow.

varche

Still BT shares shot up 8% on the news so all is not lost!

[TheBoy]

Surely it should go on the ISP? Why should little old granny have to pay for it, probably ain't got a 'puter.

Sorry, but if you chose to live in the back end of nowhere, thats your choice. Accept your 512k speeds. Or move.

There are quite a few parts of the country that don't have broadband, and they ain't the back of beyond either.

If anybody needs the kick up the backside, it should be BT.

Why BT? Why not Virgin? Tiscali? Your beloved Be/O2?

None of them will do it becuase its commercial suicide!

BT have been better than most in getting decent speed broadband to many, but at the end of the day, its a private company who's out to make money for its shareholders.

....and there's the problem TB, that's why we are in the dark ages concerning this and that's where we will remain, as the bottom line will always be - shareholders before R&D and subscribers. 

A prime example of everything that's bad about a monopoly business.

Do you think it would be better as a public company run by the government? I think we would still think ISDN was good if that was the case.  The previous head honcho their, old Dutchboy, did wonders for UK broadband in fairness, putting it in significant areas at a loss.  Remember, BT are still constrained by OFCOM, stiffling innovation. This constraint also makes them have to provide a lot of stuff at a loss in some cases, and not allow competitive pricing in others.

I know its nice to follow the sheppard and slag of BT, but they have done an awful lot to improve internet connectivity in the UK (probably made some mistakes along the way), and at a loss.  Ever wondered why the UK has probably one of the cheapest broadband in the world?

Why pick on BT?  Nobody is complaining about any of the other providers?

[mantahatch]

Goverment levy to pay for upgrade to the nations broadband
50p a month per fixed phone line.

Expect it will be plus vat so another tax hike. 

Will need to get my VOIP line fixed 

And going to Swith off AM / FM transmitters by 2015

So what happens to the millions of car radios in our cars ?

[Varche]

Can't help the rest of them, but Manta hatch. I still have a working "8 track" in the garage and a selection of tapes (Tangerine dream and the like). I'll send you them in 2015 if you pm me..

Mind you by then there will no doubt be a tax on what we listen to in the car anyway!

v

[TheBoy]

Goverment levy to pay for upgrade to the nations broadband
50p a month per fixed phone line.

Expect it will be plus vat so another tax hike. 

Will need to get my VOIP line fixed 

And going to Swith off AM / FM transmitters by 2015

So what happens to the millions of car radios in our cars ?

we can sing along to the static...