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Lizzie_Zoom

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Re: Yesterday tobacco, tomorrow drink...
« Reply #15 on: 27 June 2009, 11:47:39 »

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Again another struggle between the have's and have not's.

Are you aware that pre the victorians there was no such thing as porongraphy !! it was deemed by the victorians that the have not's where not intelligent enough to deal with erotica and so it was sidelined for the have not's. Now they are trying to do the same with tobacco. That done they move on to alcohol. And if they could, transport will go the same way. The have not's on public transport the have's in car's.
You see this is my communist side coming out now.

Amazing I can be a fascist on some subects and communist on others. Does that make me a liberal, ha ha ha.


Sorry MH, but yes there was, as pornography is as old as humankind itself, but certainly known to exist in ancient Greece.  The question is what is pornography?  To various races and religions sexual depiction can be viewed either as totally acceptable, or unacceptable and known as being pornographic.  It is still individual perception, interpretation, or objectivity that rules on the final definition of whether something is pornographic or not.  That is why there have been such famous legal cases or discussions in modern times such as that surrounding Lady Chatterley's Lover , Ulysses, or many earlier 17th, 18th and 19th century publications. 8-) 8-) 8-)

You may be interested to read this:

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/470645/pornography

 ;) ;) ;)
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Re: Yesterday tobacco, tomorrow drink...
« Reply #16 on: 27 June 2009, 12:30:01 »

I have been banging on about this for ages, frequently suggesting before the smoking ban that I was against it (even though a non smoker), as the next logical step would be banning drinking in pubs.


You could argue that 'controlling' drinking via landlords etc is better than sending it behind closed doors. I think there is a similar argument on legalising brothels.
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Re: Yesterday tobacco, tomorrow drink...
« Reply #17 on: 27 June 2009, 16:52:40 »

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Again another struggle between the have's and have not's.

Are you aware that pre the victorians there was no such thing as porongraphy !! it was deemed by the victorians that the have not's where not intelligent enough to deal with erotica and so it was sidelined for the have not's. Now they are trying to do the same with tobacco. That done they move on to alcohol. And if they could, transport will go the same way. The have not's on public transport the have's in car's.
You see this is my communist side coming out now.

Amazing I can be a fascist on some subects and communist on others. Does that make me a liberal, ha ha ha.[/quote


.......I think it makes you someone who can reach his own conclusion about a range of things and can see merit in more than one given perspective - which is OK in my book :y :y
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crazyjoetavola

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Re: Yesterday tobacco, tomorrow drink...
« Reply #18 on: 27 June 2009, 16:54:41 »

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I have been banging on about this for ages, frequently suggesting before the smoking ban that I was against it (even though a non smoker), as the next logical step would be banning drinking in pubs.


You could argue that 'controlling' drinking via landlords etc is better than sending it behind closed doors. I think there is a similar argument on legalising brothels.



....have always thought this was worth considering TB :y :y
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