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[Mr Skrunts]

You ain't gonna get a "decent" 42" 1080p set for £399 Skruntie, you need to stick at least another £100 on that before you even have the pilot alight..let alone start cooking I'm afraid.

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I actually fancy the Samsung LED at the mo, but price is just daft.  So I put a £400 to £500 budget on the first flat screen I buy and then when the LED's drop in price the 1st TV will go in my bedroom.

[Mr Skrunts]

This is the same on I have and it is excellent at the same price as the hitachi
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/catalogId/1500001501/partNumber/5366251.htm#tabrev

Also rated the best 37" out there for the money, only trouble is that Skruntie wants a 1080p set.

37" min size and must be 1080p 

[Plomien]

well it handles 1080p without a problem but may have a drop in proper 1080p quality

[KillerWatt]

well it handles 1080p without a problem but may have a drop in proper 1080p quality

It doesn't "handle" 1080p at all, it simply downscales the 1080p signal (not that it matters in this particular case really, because Sky isn't true HD to start with).

[Lizzie_Zoom]

As seen on the Argos end of catologue offers on TV.  As I need a new TV for setting up sky HD then I wondered what members thought of this.

TIA.   

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/5365692/c_1/2|category_root|Home+entertainment+and+sat+nav|12108813/c_2/3|cat_12108813|Televisions|12108983.htm?Price+Cut=1

Well don't bother in any case with this Hitachi model Skruntie.

I have been to Argos to buy one, only to be told that right across Kent and into Sussex they have sold right out, with no more due in as this particular model has been discontinued.

Obviously a new, improved Hitachi model is due out, but no where near as cheap of course as the "clearance" one!

 

[Mr Skrunts]

As seen on the Argos end of catologue offers on TV.  As I need a new TV for setting up sky HD then I wondered what members thought of this.

TIA.   

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/5365692/c_1/2|category_root|Home+entertainment+and+sat+nav|12108813/c_2/3|cat_12108813|Televisions|12108983.htm?Price+Cut=1

Well don't bother in any case with this Hitachi model Skruntie.

I have been to Argos to buy one, only to be told that right across Kent and into Sussex they have sold right out, with no more due in as this particular model has been discontinued.

Obviously a new, improved Hitachi model is due out, but no where near as cheap of course as the "clearance" one!

 

Cheers lizzie.

i still cant decide what to go for yet.  Might have annother look arround and see what offers are on.

[Mr Skrunts]

As seen on the Argos end of catologue offers on TV.  As I need a new TV for setting up sky HD then I wondered what members thought of this.

TIA.   

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/5365692/c_1/2|category_root|Home+entertainment+and+sat+nav|12108813/c_2/3|cat_12108813|Televisions|12108983.htm?Price+Cut=1

It's made (under license) by a company called Vestel (aka Bush).

Contrast Ratio - Crap
Viewing Angle - Crap
Response Time - Crap
Overscan Disable - Not possible (Crap)

It's cheap because it's crap....walk away.

What figures should I be looking for on an LCD?

just seen this at Dixons

http://www.dixons.co.uk/martprd/store/dix_page.jsp?page=Product&sku=200236&camp_id=ppc_tvcamp__LG-42PQ6000_E&gclid=CPiDparLqpsCFU0B4wodklxWBg&source_id=aw#productInformationSection

Extract from page.

Brightness        1500 cd/m2        The greater the brightness the better quality of the picture usually is. However the actual picture quality is determined by how well the brightness and contrast of the TV work together

Contrast       2000000      The higher the contrast ratio the better the picture quality

[Lizzie_Zoom]

That looks good Skruntie, with a fine spec, but no mention of a 1080 screen, and just "HD Ready".  Is that important? :-/ :-/

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Have you seen the 47" LG set on a  very significant offer at Comet?:

http://www.comet.co.uk/sh"My Naff Code Reader"et/product/531464/LG-47LH3000?cm_sp=FeatureEnd-_--_-position1

No nothing about this new technology, so I don't know about the spec being good or bad!!

[Mr Skrunts]

Well spotted Lizzie, I hadnt actually checked the specs out.  I was looking at the high numbers for the contrast/brightness as they seemed higher than a lot of others.

http://www.lge.com/uk/tv-audio-video/televisions/LG-plasma-tv-42PQ6000.jsp

res is only 1024 x 758

I am after a 1080P which I think is 1920 x 1080

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Well spotted Lizzie, I hadnt actually checked the specs out.  I was looking at the high numbers for the contrast/brightness as they seemed higher than a lot of others.

http://www.lge.com/uk/tv-audio-video/televisions/LG-plasma-tv-42PQ6000.jsp

res is only 1024 x 758

I am after a 1080P which I think is 1920 x 1080

Well the LG 47" is Pixel resolution: 1920x1080

[Mr Skrunts]

My Brain is starting to hurt.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1080p

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=1080P&btnG=Google+Search&meta=&aq=f&oq=

Some interesting reading, sadly I have far too much on my mind to absorb all the reading.  (I have bad memoery retention at the best of times)

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Well out of all that material, which includes:

"If I had a choice, I would want to watch 1080 material everyday. There is just so much more detail (so much that Vanessa William is complaining) to see. To do that you will need a display that can show 1920x1080 resolution (16:9 wide aspect ratio)."

it certainly seems that the 1920x108O is the ideal resolution, which the 47" produces 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-). 

Well that's how it reads to me!

[Teebee]

I'm not sure I should post this as I suspect it will cause you to go into full meltdown 

Without attempting to go technical 1080p isn't as good as the mfrs make out, it can be a lot better at the right viewing distance with the right content but it can also be worse than 720p. At 4m with a 40" TV i'm fairly sure that all the extra detail will just blend in and look no better than 720p. What you have to be aware of is that non-HD content could suffer bad pixelation because the sky box has to upscale it fit your screen (try to imagine it doesn't have enough pixels to fit your screen so it expands the picture and trys to 'guess' the colour in between pixels).

The other consideration is Plasma VS LCD. The difference is getting less now but a 1024*768 plasma can give give a better picture than 1920*1080 LCD depending on what you display through it.

Simple comparison:
LCDs now rarely suffer screen burn (if a static picture is displayed for hours), plasmas still carry a risk of this (Panasonic have fairly much beaten this on their plasmas)
LCDs are better for PC inputs.
1080p LCD will display blu-ray DVD's better
Plasmas display moving pictures better with less pixelation (footie, grand prix etc)
Plasmas tend to have darker blacks (contrast)
Plasmas tend to handle bad signals better due to the lower resolution and way they work(freeview, non-HD sky etc)

Your best bet is to read avforums.com but trust me those guys are ott about everything so you need to read between the lines a bit

And just so you know after 3 months of convincing myself I needed a 1080p LCD I ended up buying a TX-P42C10 1024*768 plasma and i'm very pleased with it 

[Mr Skrunts]

So now the question I need to ask, which is better fo gaming.  LCD or Plasma