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[x.ray]

your absolutely right that technology can not replace good and sensible parenting.
however a national data base that stops people moving areas when they were caught and starting grooming again is not a bad thing. provided it is used and checked regularly.
i have an enhanced crb that is accepted in the numerous places i visit.
what surprises me is that quite often i have to remind organisations they they should look at it

[albitz]

Personally I would just gas peado,s when they are caught and save all the hassle.

[Vamps]

your absolutely right that technology can not replace good and sensible parenting.
however a national data base that stops people moving areas when they were caught and starting grooming again is not a bad thing. provided it is used and checked regularly.
i have an enhanced crb that is accepted in the numerous places i visit.what surprises me is that quite often i have to remind organisations they they should look at it

Me to but even sure where mine is, put somewhere safe though

[Dishevelled Den]

there in lies the problem. people not technology.

The day we start depending wholly on technology in this field is the day when the basic control of the system of enforcement will be lost and rendered secondary to what appears on a screen.

[albitz]

Just like they have done with roads policing. t hey catch plenty of people exceeding the posted speed limit but they aint catching dangerous drivers,drunken/drugged drivers etc, but they can use  the figures to manipulate the stats to tell us they are doing a great job.

[Dishevelled Den]

your absolutely right that technology can not replace good and sensible parenting.however a national data base that stops people moving areas when they were caught and starting grooming again is not a bad thing. provided it is used and checked regularly.
i have an enhanced crb that is accepted in the numerous places i visit.
what surprises me is that quite often i have to remind organisations they they should look at it

...and good practice by those charged with examining such matters.

This country will be held hostage to the ever increasing desire of the state to hold as much information on its citizens as it can get away with.

I am of the state and believe me you don't want to encourage this particular kind of information gathering, or some others would say, fishing.

[x.ray]

zulu u are right.
but a combination of the 2 is our best chance

[x.ray]

we are the state and its our duty to hold those we elect to account.
u only have to look at the data already held and how often it goes missing or is lost

[Dishevelled Den]

we are the state and its our duty to hold those we elect to account.
u (as YOU is too hard to spell for me)(as YOU is too hard to spell for me)only have to look at the data already held and how often it goes missing or is lost[/quote]


.......is it reasonable to assume therefore that the amount of information required to be surrendered under these proposals will be likely, in some part, to face the same fate?

[hotel21]

we are the state and its our duty to hold those we elect to account.
u only have to look at the data already held and how often it goes missing or is lost

To a certain extent, fair comment.

The more marbles you have, the more chance of the bag bursting and loosing some.

Answer - get a stronger bag!

[Dishevelled Den]

we are the state and its our duty to hold those we elect to account.
u only have to look at the data already held and how often it goes missing or is lost

To a certain extent, fair comment.

The more marbles you have, the more chance of the bag bursting and loosing some.

Answer - get a stronger bag!

........those days may have gone H - there's too much arse-covering now, safety in the numbers of a committee and so on.

[x.ray]

cheers all for a reasoned debate.
the reality is there is no easy answer to this complex issues.
if there was we would be using it.
but remember abuse happened before we had any systems. no system will ever stop those who wish to abuse.
what we can all do is be vigilant and aware

[Dishevelled Den]

cheers all for a reasoned debate.
the reality is there is no easy answer to this complex issues.
if there was we would be using it.
but remember abuse happened before we had any systems. no system will ever stop those who wish to abuse.
what we can all do is be vigilant and aware

Exactly

[x.ray]

cheers zulu

[Dishevelled Den]

cheers zulu

Thanks X, look forward to more input from you