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The Independent to close by December?
« on: 23 September 2009, 00:03:50 »

..and how many more titles will follow?

To quote the Indy's largest shareholder:

"There's no point in us as a company subsidising a newspaper that really nobody wants to read in the United Kingdom,"

I am not surprised in the least. Journalism within the broadsheet industry has become a lost art. These days, they rely on press releases for their information. There is precious little investigation involved. (Note the recent false story in the Indy about the Arctic NE Passage.) The only notable exception in recent times has been the Telegraph with their expenses scandal scoop, but that was only because they were offered, and paid for, the CD with the incriminatory data.

http://www.reuters.com/article/rbssTechMediaTelecomNews/idUSLI32052720090918?sp=true

My guess is that The Guardian will be the next to face problems.

Strangely, the survivors will be the tabloids. Although the least "cultured", they all share an eagerness to chase stories like bloodhounds (e.g. the Daily Mail over the Baroness Scotland affair).

At the end of the day, though, free news on the web may mean that even the days of the tabloids are numbered.

Strange days ahead, methinks!  :o
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Re: The Independent to close by December?
« Reply #1 on: 23 September 2009, 00:24:29 »

Decidedly so Nick although I must say I could never warm to the Indy.

The Guardian will probably save itself by cutting the Observer loose, which is a shame.

I only hope that the Murdoch desire to charge for on-line news content doesn't catch on.

The loss of quality print news media will be a bitter blow indeed, God help us should the red-tops be the survivors
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Re: The Independent to close by December?
« Reply #2 on: 23 September 2009, 00:48:44 »

Interesting how the biggest shareholder said "...we need to reduce our costs, get out of loss-making business and restructure." The typical accountant way of looking at things. Surely you  find a market and service it to the best of your ability, making sure that you supply what the consumer wants, not give out some irrelevant recycled junk at the lowest possible price.

Hey, Murdoch controls so much of the media, what will it matter if he rules the lot  :'( :'( :'(

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Re: The Independent to close by December?
« Reply #3 on: 23 September 2009, 09:02:28 »

if it did close it would be a sad day - it was and still is a refreshing paper to read, and its been responsible for many eye-opening exposes and campaigns, but hey - most people read the sun and think only fools and horses is hilarious - so what do i know  :(
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Re: The Independent to close by December?
« Reply #4 on: 23 September 2009, 18:41:09 »

Over many decades I have watched the circulation figures of all the major newspaper titles decline, and is it recognised in the industry that the days of newspapers are numbered.

Modern technology, with the internet in particular, has generated the young and not so young of today as a growing group who never buy a newspaper.

I predict that 25 years (at most) from now there will be no newspapers. It will at least save a lot of trees!! :D :D ;)
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Re: The Independent to close by December?
« Reply #5 on: 23 September 2009, 19:11:06 »

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Over many decades I have watched the circulation figures of all the major newspaper titles decline, and is it recognised in the industry that the days of newspapers are numbered.

Modern technology, with the internet in particular, has generated the young and not so young of today as a growing group who never buy a newspaper.

I predict that 25 years (at most) from now there will be no newspapers. It will at least save a lot of trees!! :D :D ;)


...quite possibly so Ms Zoom - lovely to have you back - but there's nothing like reading from a printed page, somehow it's much more tangible or intimate even 8-) :y :y
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Re: The Independent to close by December?
« Reply #6 on: 23 September 2009, 19:47:39 »

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Over many decades I have watched the circulation figures of all the major newspaper titles decline, and is it recognised in the industry that the days of newspapers are numbered.

Modern technology, with the internet in particular, has generated the young and not so young of today as a growing group who never buy a newspaper.

I predict that 25 years (at most) from now there will be no newspapers. It will at least save a lot of trees!! :D :D ;)


...quite possibly so Ms Zoom - lovely to have you back - but there's nothing like reading from a printed page, somehow it's much more tangible or intimate even 8-) :y :y

Thanks Zulu! :-* :-*

I agree, there is nothing more satisfying than reading the written word from a newspaper or book physically in front of you! 8-) 8-) ;) ;)
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Re: The Independent to close by December?
« Reply #7 on: 23 September 2009, 19:55:36 »

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if it did close it would be a sad day - it was and still is a refreshing paper to read, and its been responsible for many eye-opening exposes and campaigns, but hey - most people read the sun and think only fools and horses is hilarious - so what do i know  :(

As far as I 'am aware................you are correct Bannjaxx.....and the most popular TV is Eastenders and Coronation Street......need I say more. :-/ :-/
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Re: The Independent to close by December?
« Reply #8 on: 23 September 2009, 21:57:01 »

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..and how many more titles will follow?

To quote the Indy's largest shareholder:

"There's no point in us as a company subsidising a newspaper that really nobody wants to read in the United Kingdom,"
I am not surprised in the least. Journalism within the broadsheet industry has become a lost art. These days, they rely on press releases for their information. There is precious little investigation involved. (Note the recent false story in the Indy about the Arctic NE Passage.) The only notable exception in recent times has been the Telegraph with their expenses scandal scoop, but that was only because they were offered, and paid for, the CD with the incriminatory data.

http://www.reuters.com/article/rbssTechMediaTelecomNews/idUSLI32052720090918?sp=true

My guess is that The Guardian will be the next to face problems.

Strangely, the survivors will be the tabloids. Although the least "cultured", they all share an eagerness to chase stories like bloodhounds (e.g. the Daily Mail over the Baroness Scotland affair).

At the end of the day, though, free news on the web may mean that even the days of the tabloids are numbered.

Strange days ahead, methinks!  :o
1.At last they got the message,we arent a nation of linen suited,sandal wearing luvvies who worship the memory of June 1997. :)

2.I hope your right,where will the government advertise all those non jobs?..........happy days :y :)
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Re: The Independent to close by December?
« Reply #9 on: 24 September 2009, 10:16:54 »

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..and how many more titles will follow?

To quote the Indy's largest shareholder:

"There's no point in us as a company subsidising a newspaper that really nobody wants to read in the United Kingdom,"
I am not surprised in the least. Journalism within the broadsheet industry has become a lost art. These days, they rely on press releases for their information. There is precious little investigation involved. (Note the recent false story in the Indy about the Arctic NE Passage.) The only notable exception in recent times has been the Telegraph with their expenses scandal scoop, but that was only because they were offered, and paid for, the CD with the incriminatory data.

http://www.reuters.com/article/rbssTechMediaTelecomNews/idUSLI32052720090918?sp=true

My guess is that The Guardian will be the next to face problems.

Strangely, the survivors will be the tabloids. Although the least "cultured", they all share an eagerness to chase stories like bloodhounds (e.g. the Daily Mail over the Baroness Scotland affair).

At the end of the day, though, free news on the web may mean that even the days of the tabloids are numbered.

Strange days ahead, methinks!  :o
1.At last they got the message,we arent a nation of linen suited,sandal wearing luvvies who worship the memory of June 1997. :)

2.I hope your right,where will the government advertise all those non jobs?..........happy days :y :)


albs are you suggesting that any diversity, any difference of opinion or point of view is something to be locked away and shunned? you really want all culture and comment to only reflect your values and beliefs? how on earth would anyone ever learn anything? theres a place for all views - it almost beggars belief this blinkered attitude, i'd expect it from extreme religions but free thinking oofers?  :o
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Re: The Independent to close by December?
« Reply #10 on: 24 September 2009, 10:53:18 »

At the end of the day, the only newspapers that will survive are those that sell, i.e. the stuff that people wish to read. Whilst the tabloids get berated for invasion of privacy; thats exactly what sells.
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Re: The Independent to close by December?
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At the end of the day, the only newspapers that will survive are those that sell, i.e. the stuff that people wish to read. Whilst the tabloids get berated for invasion of privacy; thats exactly what sells.

pity the people wish to read trash  ::)

an english teacher once told me (when i was about 14) you should read a quality paper at least once a week - doesn't matter if its the times, the telegraph, the guardian (indy wasn't around back then) nowadays its free on the net - so theres really no excuse for not - jeezuz imagine all you could read was the sun and mail  :(

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Re: The Independent to close by December?
« Reply #12 on: 24 September 2009, 12:04:52 »

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At the end of the day, the only newspapers that will survive are those that sell, i.e. the stuff that people wish to read. Whilst the tabloids get berated for invasion of privacy; thats exactly what sells.

pity the people wish to read trash  ::)

an english teacher once told me (when i was about 14) you should read a quality paper at least once a week - doesn't matter if its the times, the telegraph, the guardian (indy wasn't around back then) nowadays its free on the net - so theres really no excuse for not - jeezuz imagine all you could read was the sun and mail  :(


Don't get me started on these two. :-/
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Re: The Independent to close by December?
« Reply #13 on: 24 September 2009, 19:47:11 »

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..and how many more titles will follow?

To quote the Indy's largest shareholder:

"There's no point in us as a company subsidising a newspaper that really nobody wants to read in the United Kingdom,"
I am not surprised in the least. Journalism within the broadsheet industry has become a lost art. These days, they rely on press releases for their information. There is precious little investigation involved. (Note the recent false story in the Indy about the Arctic NE Passage.) The only notable exception in recent times has been the Telegraph with their expenses scandal scoop, but that was only because they were offered, and paid for, the CD with the incriminatory data.

http://www.reuters.com/article/rbssTechMediaTelecomNews/idUSLI32052720090918?sp=true

My guess is that The Guardian will be the next to face problems.

Strangely, the survivors will be the tabloids. Although the least "cultured", they all share an eagerness to chase stories like bloodhounds (e.g. the Daily Mail over the Baroness Scotland affair).

At the end of the day, though, free news on the web may mean that even the days of the tabloids are numbered.

Strange days ahead, methinks!  :o
1.At last they got the message,we arent a nation of linen suited,sandal wearing luvvies who worship the memory of June 1997. :)

2.I hope your right,where will the government advertise all those non jobs?..........happy days :y :)


albs are you suggesting that any diversity, any difference of opinion or point of view is something to be locked away and shunned? you really want all culture and comment to only reflect your values and beliefs? how on earth would anyone ever learn anything? theres a place for all views - it almost beggars belief this blinkered attitude, i'd expect it from extreme religions but free thinking oofers?  :o
Calm down Banjaxx,it was tongue in cheek (well pertially if im honest) ;)
Having said that,in the last 10 years or so,the left and their friends in the media have been relentless at stifling anything which remotely disagrees with them,everyone must be on message - remember Alistair Campbell ? he has ruined careers and lives of people who dared to question the New Liebore "little red book". ;)
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