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[Marks DTM Calib]

Our local beat bobby is excellent, the local cop shop on the other hand, is not.

I have seen more life on the decks of the Mary Celeste than at the reception counter in that place!

And they never do what they promise (which is a tad annoying)

[albitz]

There was an item on our local news last night about a bloke who had his car nicked.Short version is,he did some research himself as plod didnt seem to be putting much effort in.He found out who nicked it and where it was.He took his spare keys and nicked it back from outside their house.
He told Ipswich plod who they were and where to find them,they didnt even bother paying them a visit.The bloke ,who is a Mr average - law abiding,works for a living,pays taxes etc, - said he has totally lost all faith in the Police.My opinion is that the Police have been so politicised that the people in charge are obsessed with diversity indoctrination,so called hate crime prevention etc,etc, and what we the silent tax paying backbone of the country used to think of as policing is now right at the bottom of the priority list.It needs to change ,and quick.

[Dishevelled Den]

There was an item on our local news last night about a bloke who had his car nicked.Short version is,he did some research himself as plod didnt seem to be putting much effort in.He found out who nicked it and where it was.He took his spare keys and nicked it back from outside their house.
He told Ipswich plod who they were and where to find them,they didnt even bother paying them a visit.The bloke ,who is a Mr average - law abiding,works for a living,pays taxes etc, - said he has totally lost all faith in the Police.My opinion is that the Police have been so politicised that the people in charge are obsessed with diversity indoctrination,so called hate crime prevention etc,etc, and what we the silent tax paying backbone of the country used to think of as policing is now right at the bottom of the priority list.It needs to change ,and quick.

....... and we all know where that'll take us A

[JamesV6CDX]

seems very accurate to me. Dont know what your all laughing at? :-) hobby bobbys almost as much of a waiste of space as the above mentioned failed abortions. Probably cost more money..... 

Please tell me what experience you have of the Special Constabulary, in order to form such a comment.

Having regular experience of going on duty as a Special Constable (aka Hobby Bobby), I must wholeheartedly disagree with your comments.

Furthermore, I find the way you have worded your post rather offensive.


Apart from our initial training, we as Special Constables don't cost the constabulary anything, in comparison to what they get from us.

We are NOT PAID.

We consistently Police our commuities, week in, week out. Most SCs give a very regular, consistent commitment and are extremely high value for money. (Else, why would constabularies take us on?). I do around 60 hours a month or more.

Please see below just a small amount of press coverage regarding operations and events our team has been involved in. Many of these operations have been entirely run by ourselves.

I encourage you to read them all, and then reconsider your opinion of us.

Also bear in mind that these events, are entirely seperate to the regular patrols and support we regularly do.

Large numbers of warranted police officers, (yes, that's what we are), with full powers of arrest, wearing the same uniform, and carrying the same kit as a full time PC), giving up large amounts of our time to support our communities, for no pay.

When I am removing uninsured cars from the road, preventing violence in the City, helping with drugs raids, helping young people - all unpaid - the satisfaction I get from that far outweights your (not very well informed) comments.

Specials do a full range of Police work. We even have Special Constbales permanently attached to Roads Policing unit. Long gone are the days when SCs were just there "to make up numbers".

We are a very proactive team in our approach, we work with all sections of the Constabulary, and will target whatever issues are necessary, consistently achieving great results.

I am not saying the Police are perfect for one minute - but I'm happy that I'm proactively trying to make a difference, rather than just moan about them and make unnecessary derogitory comments, like many do.


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Recent Special Constabulary Operations in my area:


http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/forest/sport/Crackdown-anti-social-behaviour/article-613333-detail/article.html


http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/news/Drivers-stopped-police-operation/article-634746-detail/article.html


http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/news/Motorists-pulled-police-swoop/article-1082315-detail/article.html


http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/news/Operation-Scott-success/article-773343-detail/article.html


http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/gloucester/headlines/Children-s-campaign-sparks-police-crackdown/article-1431171-detail/article.html


http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/news/Specials-advice-Gloucestershire/article-1303906-detail/article.html


http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/stmarks/news/11-13am-arrests-anti-social-behaviour-crackdown/article-189021-detail/article.html


http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/bourtononthewater/news/Drugs-Bourton-football-club-raid/article-773325-detail/article.html


http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/news/Crackdown-anti-social-behaviour/article-613333-detail/article.html


http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/news/Drugs-seized-Cirencester-bar-swoop/article-756774-detail/article.html


http://www.gloucestershire.police.uk/Latest%20News/Press%20Releases/2009/September/item13040.html


http://www.gloucestershire.police.uk/Latest%20News/Press%20Releases/2008/December/item10544.html

[tunnie]

seems very accurate to me. Dont know what your all laughing at? :-) hobby bobbys almost as much of a waiste of space as the above mentioned failed abortions. Probably cost more money..... 

When I am removing uninsured cars from the road, preventing violence in the City, helping with drugs raids, helping young people - all unpaid - the satisfaction I get from that far outweights your (not very well informed) comments.

Specials do a full range of Police work. We even have Special Constbales permanently attached to Roads Policing unit. Long gone are the days when SCs were just there "to make up numbers".


I am not saying the Police are perfect for one minute - but I'm happy that I'm proactively trying to make a difference, rather than just moan about them and make unnecessary derogitory comments, like many do.

Do you get to partner pursuit drivers?

[JamesV6CDX]

Yes we can do shifts with traffic...

It needs a traffic officer (rather than a PC or SC) to actually issue the 165 notice to take the car off the road...

However if we (without traffic) stop a vehicle, and discover no insurance, we just call up over the airwave for traffic, who will more than happily oblige with the notice....

[tunnie]

Yes we can do shifts with traffic...

It needs a traffic officer (rather than a PC or SC) to actually issue the 165 notice to take the car off the road...

However if we (without traffic) stop a vehicle, and discover no insurance, we just call up over the airwave for traffic, who will more than happily oblige with the notice....

I'd be tempted if i could sit in the passenger seat of pursuit cars, spice up my days off 

[albitz]

I think the problem is James,from the perspective of "the man in the street",public spirited people such as your self who are willing to give up their time and energy to put effort into trying to do some good for their local community should be applauded for doing so.Special constables have been around for a very long time and can be a valuable addition to the full time police.My old Dad was a "special" although in Belfast it was a different kind of special to the rest of the U.K. but the aim was still the same - to try to help maintain law and order.
The problem many of us have these days is that it would appear that full time fully trained police officers are very often conspicuous by their absence on the streets of Britain these days,and it looks like the government is using people like yourself to replace them on the streets as a form of policing on the cheap.With people who have been the victims of crime or seen it at close quarters it causes a lot of anger/frustration and leaves a very bad taste.

[Dishevelled Den]

I think the problem is James,from the perspective of "the man in the street",public spirited people such as your self who are willing to give up their time and energy to put effort into trying to do some good for their local community should be applauded for doing so.Special constables have been around for a very long time and can be a valuable addition to the full time police.My old Dad was a "special" although in Belfast it was a different kind of special to the rest of the U.K. but the aim was still the same - to try to help maintain law and order.
The problem many of us have these days is that it would appear that full time fully trained police officers are very often conspicuous by their absence on the streets of Britain these days,and it looks like the government is using people like yourself to replace them on the streets as a form of policing on the cheap.With people who have been the victims of crome or seen it at close quarters it causes a lot of anger/frustration and leaves a very bad taste.

...just a tad different A 

[JamesV6CDX]

it would appear that full time fully trained police officers are very often conspicuous by their absence on the streets of Britain these days,and it looks like the government is using people like yourself to replace them on the streets as a form of policing on the cheap.

I still think this applies more to PCSOs, than Specials.

In the force - we are used as Police officers, and do everything. We are never deployed to do mundane tasks, so PCs can do other things.... we do the range of work.

I agree with much of what you say, but maintain it applies to PCSOs, not SCs.. 

[Dishevelled Den]

it would appear that full time fully trained police officers are very often conspicuous by their absence on the streets of Britain these days,and it looks like the government is using people like yourself to replace them on the streets as a form of policing on the cheap.

I still think this applies more to PCSOs, than Specials.

In the force - we are used as Police officers, and do everything. We are never deployed to do mundane tasks, so PCs can do other things.... we do the range of work.
I agree with much of what you say, but maintain it applies to PCSOs, not SCs.. 

....I would certainly back James on these points

[JamesV6CDX]

I would love to know if Chrisgixers comments about Special Constables being failed abortions were actually aimed at PCSOs....  unfortunately he's not answered my above post yet.

[albitz]

I think the problem is James,from the perspective of "the man in the street",public spirited people such as your self who are willing to give up their time and energy to put effort into trying to do some good for their local community should be applauded for doing so.Special constables have been around for a very long time and can be a valuable addition to the full time police.My old Dad was a "special" although in Belfast it was a different kind of special to the rest of the U.K. but the aim was still the same - to try to help maintain law and order.
The problem many of us have these days is that it would appear that full time fully trained police officers are very often conspicuous by their absence on the streets of Britain these days,and it looks like the government is using people like yourself to replace them on the streets as a form of policing on the cheap.With people who have been the victims of crome or seen it at close quarters it causes a lot of anger/frustration and leaves a very bad taste.

...just a tad different A 

Different in a 303 rifle or a Sterling sub machine gun kind of way Z.

[Vamps]

it would appear that full time fully trained police officers are very often conspicuous by their absence on the streets of Britain these days,and it looks like the government is using people like yourself to replace them on the streets as a form of policing on the cheap.

I still think this applies more to PCSOs, than Specials.

In the force - we are used as Police officers, and do everything. We are never deployed to do mundane tasks, so PCs can do other things.... we do the range of work.
I agree with much of what you say, but maintain it applies to PCSOs, not SCs.. 

....I would certainly back James on these points

I agree, and the term 'Hobby Bobby'  has been used affectionately for 'Specials' for many years.  I think there is a blurring of the difference hence an increasing number of the public, being misinformed or lack of understanding and referring to pcso's as Hobby Bobby's

[JamesV6CDX]

it would appear that full time fully trained police officers are very often conspicuous by their absence on the streets of Britain these days,and it looks like the government is using people like yourself to replace them on the streets as a form of policing on the cheap.

I still think this applies more to PCSOs, than Specials.

In the force - we are used as Police officers, and do everything. We are never deployed to do mundane tasks, so PCs can do other things.... we do the range of work.
I agree with much of what you say, but maintain it applies to PCSOs, not SCs.. 

....I would certainly back James on these points

I agree, and the term 'Hobby Bobby'  has been used affectionately for 'Specials' for many years.  I think there is a blurring of the difference hence an increasing number of the public, being misinformed or lack of understanding and referring to pcso's as Hobby Bobby's

I'd agree with that Mike.

What I find odd, is that people still get confused to this day. Specials wear exactly the same uniform as full time officers, and have done for a long time, so to the public in the street, they tell no difference.

Although - PCSO's all look very blue...