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Speeding ticket
« on: 29 November 2009, 15:41:23 »
My son got stopped last night at 03:30 for speeding in Felpham West Sussex.44 mph in a 30 mph limit.Ok he may have been speeding but as the officer told him that he had been following him for a mile and half, which my son did not notice which find hard to believe .
On the ticket he emailed me it states location,which i take as where he was stopped i.e road,street anyway the location stated Littlehampton.On Town it states Bognor.
Right at 03:30 he was in a town called Felpham which is 3 miles from Bognor and 5 miles from Littlehampton.
Littlehampton and Bognor are area's not roads and Felpham where he was stopped is a town in the middle of both towns.The road where he was stopped is a named road with plenty of roads coming off this main road,So the police can not say the road is un-named or state junction.

What i want to know is should he go the court route as there is no mention of road names only near by towns on the ticket and as with the lack of lamp posts and speed signs(nearest is 2 mile away) .The road goes from 40mph to 30mph then to 50mph
What do you think as i think the officer filled in the ticket wrong with lack of exact location.
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Re: Speeding ticket
« Reply #1 on: 29 November 2009, 15:47:05 »
Get freebie legal advice mate - think you may have a good chance with this one :y
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Re: Speeding ticket
« Reply #2 on: 29 November 2009, 15:51:09 »
I agree, could be a case. As far as I'm aware the details are supposed to be very accurate for a prosecution.
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Re: Speeding ticket
« Reply #3 on: 29 November 2009, 15:55:00 »
Called Chichester Police Station and all they could say was umm and ahh.Then said the officer would call me when on his next shift(they never do)and when i gave them my number they asked where it was,so i told them France,it went very quite and said he will call later.
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Re: Speeding ticket
« Reply #4 on: 29 November 2009, 15:56:50 »
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Called Chichester Police Station and all they could say was umm and ahh.Then said the officer would call me when on his next shift(they never do)and when i gave them my number they asked where it was,so i told them France,it went very quite and said he will call later.

May not have been wise to bring their "cockup" to their attention at this stage :-?
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Re: Speeding ticket
« Reply #5 on: 29 November 2009, 16:07:21 »
If he was speeding and didn't notice them then he should take it on the chin and treat it as a lesson learned!
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Re: Speeding ticket
« Reply #6 on: 29 November 2009, 16:08:59 »
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If he was speeding and didn't notice them then he should take it on the chin and treat it as a lesson learned!

I'd agree - if you go to court, and the magistrates think you're trying to get off when guilty, you might get more points/fine than an endorsable ticket would give you  ::)
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Re: Speeding ticket
« Reply #7 on: 29 November 2009, 16:14:09 »
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If he was speeding and didn't notice them then he should take it on the chin and treat it as a lesson learned!

I'd agree - if you go to court, and the magistrates think you're trying to get off when guilty, you might get more points/fine than an endorsable ticket would give you  ::)
If you get off on a technicality then its the policemans fault for not doing his job correctly ::)
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Re: Speeding ticket
« Reply #8 on: 29 November 2009, 16:15:42 »
Agree but as he had just exited a roundabout that i know you can't go around faster that 20mph due to the tight angle of the exit and with 3 punters in the car who gave him a good tip for a comfortable ride after.If he was going fast at this roundabout he would have ended on a central bollard,even the office stated this.Also the sat nav bleeps when going over the  speed limit.But if the police can't get their own paperwork right who's to say they can't get the speed right.
Can't say if he was speeding or not but shouldn't the location be a road name not a area 5 miles down the road
« Last Edit: 29 November 2009, 16:18:36 by Selseybill »
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Re: Speeding ticket
« Reply #9 on: 29 November 2009, 16:18:44 »
I'd fight it mate, think you may have a case, he may be in the wrong yes but if he can get off with it then go for it  :y
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Re: Speeding ticket
« Reply #10 on: 29 November 2009, 16:20:29 »
It's like me giving you a ticket for speeding but stating the location was Scotland when you were in Wales
« Last Edit: 29 November 2009, 16:21:21 by Selseybill »
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Re: Speeding ticket
« Reply #11 on: 29 November 2009, 17:13:35 »
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It's like me giving you a ticket for speeding but stating the location was Scotland when you were in Wales


Yes but, if I WAS speeding and I knew dam well I was plus I had not noticed that I was being followed for so long (hence why the roundabout could well be irrelivant) then as far as I would be concerned, is a fair cop and not worth the hassel of going to court over.

I would actualy be quite chuffed with being caught by a real person an not a talivan or stationary camera  ;D

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Re: Speeding ticket
« Reply #12 on: 29 November 2009, 17:41:41 »
« Last Edit: 29 November 2009, 17:41:57 by waspy »
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Re: Speeding ticket
« Reply #13 on: 29 November 2009, 18:25:34 »
Cheers Pete.Everything i have read has no mention about the location has to be correct.I think i will contact my lawyer tomorrow to see if the incorrect details have invalidated the NIP 
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Re: Speeding ticket
« Reply #14 on: 29 November 2009, 18:51:01 »
How it works up here, north of Hadrians Wall.   ;)

The ticket is simply that.  Just the ticket.  Its the means to pay a fixed penalty rather than appear personally in Court at a later date.

The NIP, if he was stopped and spoken to by Officers, is verbally administered.

If the ticket is unpaid then a copy complaint will be subsequently issued by the Procurator Fiscal (CPS in England?) and will again offer the ability to pay a fixed penalty.  If unpaid, a summons for Court will subsequently be forthcoming.

Have seen where an accused kept their powder dry as regards the incorrect locus being stated on a ticket and the copy complaint for appearance at Court, only revealing the error as a 'defence' in court and at trial.

The Fiscal moved for a brief adjournment and an ammended complaint was served to accused and the case reopened.  Found guilty after trial by the Sheriff. (We have them here instead of Magistrates...)

Best hope is that the ticket is bounced by the Police before all this unfolds but, in all honestly, I think I would be asking myself.... 

Was he speeding or not????

Upto him, ultimately.   :)
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