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[cem_devecioglu]

really bad picture sorry but I think shows what will happen..

a polar bear eating the self children


[size=12]NWS[/size]

http://fotograf.gazetevatan.com/fotogaleri/resim.asp?kat=12488&page_number=2

This picture is just capturing what is normal behaviour in the animal world.Many species of male animals will kill cubs for no other reason than the continued progression of their own genes without competition from others, it doesn't necessarily indicate canabalistic behaviour through food shortage.

Anybody want to suggest what human tastes like----I'm gonna say chicken!!!!

on cats (small and big)  population yes.. but not common in bears as far as I know..

[threppence]

really bad picture sorry but I think shows what will happen..

a polar bear eating the self children


[size=12]NWS[/size]

http://fotograf.gazetevatan.com/fotogaleri/resim.asp?kat=12488&page_number=2

This picture is just capturing what is normal behaviour in the animal world.Many species of male animals will kill cubs for no other reason than the continued progression of their own genes without competition from others, it doesn't necessarily indicate canabalistic behaviour through food shortage.

Anybody want to suggest what human tastes like----I'm gonna say chicken!!!!

on cats (small and big)  population yes.. but not common in bears as far as I know..

It does happen in bears, an increase in this behaviour would be indicative of some external stress though.

[markfree]

Hmmmm.... lets get this into perspective....... the worlds population standing shoulder to shoulder would fit into Isle of man/Isle of white....... so methinks there's plenty of room for expansion.

[Vamps]

May be being a little simplistic but;

Seems to me that obesity would no longer be a problem, slimmer oof members...

How much food is wasted every day in this country alone?

And, we can't have it both ways, we can't have water shortages and rising sea level because the ice caps are allegedly melting.....

[Varche]

May be being a little simplistic but;

Seems to me that obesity would no longer be a problem, slimmer oof members...

How much food is wasted every day in this country alone?

And, we can't have it both ways, we can't have water shortages and rising sea level because the ice caps are allegedly melting.....

[/color]

Wrong kind of water. It just becomes sea water when it melts. Only wealthy or desperate countries can afford the cost of making drinking water out of sea water via de salination plants. None of the melted ice caps makes its way directly into the water table of countries like Spain and the like.

[Banjax]

Hmmmm.... lets get this into perspective....... the worlds population standing shoulder to shoulder would fit into Isle of man/Isle of white....... so methinks there's plenty of room for expansion.

that was maybe the case when i was at school - now you'd struggle to squeeze half the world onto the Isle of Wight - besides thats not the point - the point is how do we feed everyone? answer? we can't possibly 

[Varche]

I always think these throw away comments about everyone could fit in Manhattan, Texas, Isle of White are meaningless. Most people in England would consider they are already too cramped.

How to feed everyone?
- Stem the rampant world population growth (education and free contraception)
- Reduce the amount of meat eaten versus veg. meat uses a phenominal amount of resources to produce. I recall the programme said a beefburger used 6000 litres of water. (put in context a civilised family in Spain might use that in TWO weeks.)

So maybe the answer is a tax on meat! A Sunday Roast for 4 for £50?! Won't be long.

Varche

[Nickbat]

Now where have I heard all this before?

Ah, yes! Earth Day 1970.

“Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.”
Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist

“It is already too late to avoid mass starvation.”
Denis Hayes, chief organizer for Earth Day

“Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions….By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine.”
Peter Gunter, professor, North Texas State University

“Dr. S. Dillon Ripley, secretary of the Smithsonian Institute, believes that in 25 years, somewhere between 75 and 80 percent of all the species of living animals will be extinct.”
Sen. Gaylord Nelson

Funny that the mainstream media never ever push anything that isn't alarmist these days. Perhaps they like frightening the kids.

[STMO999]

I always think these throw away comments about everyone could fit in Manhattan, Texas, Isle of White are meaningless. Most people in England would consider they are already too cramped.

How to feed everyone?
- Stem the rampant world population growth (education and free contraception)
- Reduce the amount of meat eaten versus veg. meat uses a phenominal amount of resources to produce. I recall the programme said a beefburger used 6000 litres of water. (put in context a civilised family in Spain might use that in TWO weeks.)

So maybe the answer is a tax on meat! A Sunday Roast for 4 for £50?! Won't be long.

Varche

Bargain! Save me cooking.

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Now where have I heard all this before?

Ah, yes! Earth Day 1970.

“Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.”
Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist

“It is already too late to avoid mass starvation.”
Denis Hayes, chief organizer for Earth Day

“Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions….By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine.”
Peter Gunter, professor, North Texas State University

“Dr. S. Dillon Ripley, secretary of the Smithsonian Institute, believes that in 25 years, somewhere between 75 and 80 percent of all the species of living animals will be extinct.”
Sen. Gaylord Nelson

Funny that the mainstream media never ever push anything that isn't alarmist these days. Perhaps they like frightening the kids.

No Nick, as I stated, it was first in 1798!

The point is that we ARE reaching a maximum level of food production from this planet earth over the next few decades due to a growing shortage of water to grow the crops and oil to help in the production and transportation of all food resouces.

[jereboam]

Now where have I heard all this before?

Ah, yes! Earth Day 1970.

“Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.”
Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist

“It is already too late to avoid mass starvation.”
Denis Hayes, chief organizer for Earth Day

“Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions….By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine.”
Peter Gunter, professor, North Texas State University

“Dr. S. Dillon Ripley, secretary of the Smithsonian Institute, believes that in 25 years, somewhere between 75 and 80 percent of all the species of living animals will be extinct.”
Sen. Gaylord Nelson

Funny that the mainstream media never ever push anything that isn't alarmist these days. Perhaps they like frightening the kids.

No Nick, as I stated, it was first in 1798!

The point is that we ARE reaching a maximum level of food production from this planet earth over the next few decades due to a growing shortage of water to grow the crops and oil to help in the production and transportation of all food resouces.

Try 1729 - I'm sure you've come across this before!

And as regards the polar bear picture, I think it was in The Times earlier this week, so I'm inclined to think the NWS was a bit OTT.

And the Harry Harrison's Make Room, Make Room is a fascinating SF novel on this topic.  It was filmed as Soylent Green, with Charlton Heston and Edward G. Robinson (his last film).  Bring on those Public Euthanasia Facilities, folks!  Get rid of all the crumblies who've outlived their usefulness.

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Now where have I heard all this before?

Ah, yes! Earth Day 1970.

“Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.”
Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist

“It is already too late to avoid mass starvation.”
Denis Hayes, chief organizer for Earth Day

“Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions….By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine.”
Peter Gunter, professor, North Texas State University

“Dr. S. Dillon Ripley, secretary of the Smithsonian Institute, believes that in 25 years, somewhere between 75 and 80 percent of all the species of living animals will be extinct.”
Sen. Gaylord Nelson

Funny that the mainstream media never ever push anything that isn't alarmist these days. Perhaps they like frightening the kids.

No Nick, as I stated, it was first in 1798!

The point is that we ARE reaching a maximum level of food production from this planet earth over the next few decades due to a growing shortage of water to grow the crops and oil to help in the production and transportation of all food resouces.

Try 1729 - I'm sure you've come across this before!

And as regards the polar bear picture, I think it was in The Times earlier this week, so I'm inclined to think the NWS was a bit OTT.

And the Harry Harrison's Make Room, Make Room is a fascinating SF novel on this topic.  It was filmed as Soylent Green, with Charlton Heston and Edward G. Robinson (his last film).  Bring on those Public Euthanasia Facilities, folks!  Get rid of all the crumblies who've outlived their usefulness.

Jonathan Swift was of course Jereboam explaining a solution to the Irish problem in a way that even the Nazis didn't think of, and certainly was far removed from the theories of Thomas Malthus in 1798!!

As for the polar bear picture the NWS was for young children and possibily certain adults who could be upset by the image, and are not Times readers!

[Pitchfork]

I always think these throw away comments about everyone could fit in Manhattan, Texas, Isle of White are meaningless. Most people in England would consider they are already too cramped.

How to feed everyone?
- Stem the rampant world population growth (education and free contraception)
- Reduce the amount of meat eaten versus veg. meat uses a phenominal amount of resources to produce. I recall the programme said a beefburger used 6000 litres of water. (put in context a civilised family in Spain might use that in TWO weeks.)

So maybe the answer is a tax on meat! A Sunday Roast for 4 for £50?! Won't be long.

Varche

You'll need to do something about the irresponsibility of Catholicism as well

[STMO999]

I always think these throw away comments about everyone could fit in Manhattan, Texas, Isle of White are meaningless. Most people in England would consider they are already too cramped.

How to feed everyone?
- Stem the rampant world population growth (education and free contraception)
- Reduce the amount of meat eaten versus veg. meat uses a phenominal amount of resources to produce. I recall the programme said a beefburger used 6000 litres of water. (put in context a civilised family in Spain might use that in TWO weeks.)

So maybe the answer is a tax on meat! A Sunday Roast for 4 for £50?! Won't be long.

Varche

You'll need to do something about the irresponsibility of Catholicism as well

Well, if you stop them having it off with choirboys, they're bound to try women sooner or later.

[Lizzie_Zoom]

I always think these throw away comments about everyone could fit in Manhattan, Texas, Isle of White are meaningless. Most people in England would consider they are already too cramped.

How to feed everyone?
- Stem the rampant world population growth (education and free contraception)
- Reduce the amount of meat eaten versus veg. meat uses a phenominal amount of resources to produce. I recall the programme said a beefburger used 6000 litres of water. (put in context a civilised family in Spain might use that in TWO weeks.)

So maybe the answer is a tax on meat! A Sunday Roast for 4 for £50?! Won't be long.

Varche

You'll need to do something about the irresponsibility of Catholicism as well

Well, if you stop them having it off with choirboys, they're bound to try women sooner or later.

  you are in top form tonight STMO!!