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[Hannah Judes Dad]

Just heard on the news that Mr Hussein has had his sentance reduced from two and a half years to two years suspended meaning he will walk out of prison.

WTF? He shouldn't be in prison in the first place,he defended himself and his family from attackers,he gave chase and one of them got injured,I'm sorry but that is the risk you take for breaking the law.If the intruders weren't there they wouldn't have been injured would they.I know if I was in the same position I would mhave done the same.

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/law/article6994458.ece

[Entwood]

Just heard on the news that Mr Hussein has had his sentance reduced from two and a half years to two years suspended meaning he will walk out of prison.

WTF? He shouldn't be in prison in the first place,he defended himself and his family from attackers,he gave chase and one of them got injured,I'm sorry but that is the risk you take for breaking the law.If the intruders weren't there they wouldn't have been injured would they.I know if I was in the same position I would mhave done the same.

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/law/article6994458.ece

Not strictly true ....

He gave chase, with 2 others, knocked the guy to the ground,  then beat him around the head with a cricket bat, so hard the bat broke in 3 places, sufficient to give him permanent brain damage.

The reason he was jailed is that such action was "disproprtionate"

He was NOT protecting his family at that point, he was a thug exacting revenge.

This is what the trial judge said ..

The trial judge, Judge John Reddihough, said Munir Hussain’s family had been subject to a "serious and wicked offence", but that he had carried out a "dreadful, violent attack" on Salem as he lay defenceless.

The judge told them: "It may be that some members of the public, or media commentators, will assert that the man Salem deserved what happened to him at the hands of you and the two others involved, and that you should not have been prosecuted and need not be punished.

"If persons were permitted to take the law into their own hands and inflict their own instant and violent punishment on an apprehended offender rather than letting justice take its course, then the rule of law and our system of criminal justice, which are the hallmarks of a civilised society, would collapse."

[spacekid2009]

Don't know much about this case, but i'd say that the thief was retreating, thefeore no longer a threat, so the courts wouldn't look at it as reasonable force, but assault.

[Dishevelled Den]

Not strictly true ....

He gave chase, with 2 others, knocked the guy to the ground,  then beat him around the head with a cricket bat, so hard the bat broke in 3 places, sufficient to give him permanent brain damage.

The reason he was jailed is that such action was "disproprtionate"

He was NOT protecting his family at that point, he was a thug exacting revenge.
This is what the trial judge said ..

The trial judge, Judge John Reddihough, said Munir Hussain’s family had been subject to a "serious and wicked offence", but that he had carried out a "dreadful, violent attack" on Salem as he lay defenceless.

The judge told them: "It may be that some members of the public, or media commentators, will assert that the man Salem deserved what happened to him at the hands of you and the two others involved, and that you should not have been prosecuted and need not be punished.

"If persons were permitted to take the law into their own hands and inflict their own instant and violent punishment on an apprehended offender rather than letting justice take its course, then the rule of law and our system of criminal justice, which are the hallmarks of a civilised society, would collapse."

Agreed E, there was little other the trial judge could do.  A sound, well reasoned and legally correct decision.

[jerry]

Speaking personally, I dont see anything wrong with the defending bit in his own home. As for chasing them down the street, yeh, in his position, if I knew my family were ok, I would probably do the same. To what end? Well I think he was totally over the top in taking out his revenge.But seriously folks, youre telling me that you'd just try for a "citizens arrest" and call the police?These guys were armed and threatened your family and property and you wouldnt like to take out at least some retribution? I dont condone what this feller did but I understand why he would want to take some measure of revenge (especially when the law in this country seems all to lenient on offenders)

[Banjax]

correct decision - the guy should never have done any time, now free his brother too

[Richie London]

Just heard on the news that Mr Hussein has had his sentance reduced from two and a half years to two years suspended meaning he will walk out of prison.

WTF? He shouldn't be in prison in the first place,he defended himself and his family from attackers,he gave chase and one of them got injured,I'm sorry but that is the risk you take for breaking the law.If the intruders weren't there they wouldn't have been injured would they.I know if I was in the same position I would mhave done the same.

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/law/article6994458.ece

Not strictly true ....

He gave chase, with 2 others, knocked the guy to the ground,  then beat him around the head with a cricket bat, so hard the bat broke in 3 places, sufficient to give him permanent brain damage.The reason he was jailed is that such action was "disproprtionate"

He was NOT protecting his family at that point, he was a thug exacting revenge.

This is what the trial judge said ..

The trial judge, Judge John Reddihough, said Munir Hussain’s family had been subject to a "serious and wicked offence", but that he had carried out a "dreadful, violent attack" on Salem as he lay defenceless.

The judge told them: "It may be that some members of the public, or media commentators, will assert that the man Salem deserved what happened to him at the hands of you and the two others involved, and that you should not have been prosecuted and need not be punished.

"If persons were permitted to take the law into their own hands and inflict their own instant and violent punishment on an apprehended offender rather than letting justice take its course, then the rule of law and our system of criminal justice, which are the hallmarks of a civilised society, would collapse."

just a shame the bstrd never died.


ive had a massive row with the police this morning. that rather bstrd whos been attacking my sons has had his charges dropped by the crown prosecution service yet again. not only that he threatened him in tescos last week directly under the cameras and when the police were informed they basically said they are not interested. we have gone the right way about it for too long now, hasnt worked. now we play by our rules. the law in this country is rather useless. 

[Olympia5776]

I laughed when his QC read a statement out on the steps of the Courthouse and said that the victim
" had seemingly overcome his brain damage and resumed his criminal career " 

[PhilRich]

I thought our 'system of Criminal Justice' had already collapsed?

[KillerWatt]

He gave chase, with 2 others, knocked the guy to the ground,  then beat him around the head with a cricket bat, so hard the bat broke in 3 places, sufficient to give him permanent brain damage.

The thieving bastard wants to consider himself lucky, because if I had been Mr Hussein then the toerag would have been beaten, thrown in to the boot of a car, taken to a nice quiet location, fed heroin (intravenously) for a good 30 days plus, starved of what he craves for 48 hours, given another beating, then dumped in a phonebox somewhere clucking like a bitch, and finally handed a premixed syringe of a dose so neat he would die before he got the plunger fully home.

Mr Husseins mistake was thinking the old bill were gonna help him, but I'll bet he won't make that mistake twice.

[redelitev6]

He gave chase, with 2 others, knocked the guy to the ground,  then beat him around the head with a cricket bat, so hard the bat broke in 3 places, sufficient to give him permanent brain damage.

The thieving bastard wants to consider himself lucky, because if I had been Mr Hussein then the toerag would have been beaten, thrown in to the boot of a car, taken to a nice quiet location, fed heroin (intravenously) for a good 30 days plus, starved of what he craves for 48 hours, given another beating, then dumped in a phonebox somewhere clucking like a bitch, and finally handed a premixed syringe of a dose so neat he would die before he got the plunger fully home.

Mr Husseins mistake was thinking the old bill were gonna help him, but I'll bet he won't make that mistake twice.

That's all we need ,another bleeding heart social worker 

[Entwood]

He gave chase, with 2 others, knocked the guy to the ground,  then beat him around the head with a cricket bat, so hard the bat broke in 3 places, sufficient to give him permanent brain damage.

The thieving bastard wants to consider himself lucky, because if I had been Mr Hussein then the toerag would have been beaten, thrown in to the boot of a car, taken to a nice quiet location, fed heroin (intravenously) for a good 30 days plus, starved of what he craves for 48 hours, given another beating, then dumped in a phonebox somewhere clucking like a bitch, and finally handed a premixed syringe of a dose so neat he would die before he got the plunger fully home.

Mr Husseins mistake was thinking the old bill were gonna help him, but I'll bet he won't make that mistake twice.

Sometimes you are just so full of crap it is pitiful.

You must have the biggest mouth, and the smallest brain on OOF.

Just for once try using the latter before the former.

[KillerWatt]

Sometimes you are just so full of crap it is pitiful.

You must have the biggest mouth, and the smallest brain on OOF.

Just for once try using the latter before the former.

If you truly believe I am not capable of something like that (or that I wouldn't actually do it), feel free to attempt to burgle my house and try to prove yourself right.

If I truly had the "smallest" brain on OOF, I would have come out with some crap like I'd shoot them.
But then everybody knows if you use a gun then you get life, but when a smackhead OD's, no-one looks twice.

What was that about brain capacity again?

[Entwood]

Sometimes you are just so full of crap it is pitiful.

You must have the biggest mouth, and the smallest brain on OOF.

Just for once try using the latter before the former.

If you truly believe I am not capable of something like that (or that I wouldn't actually do it), feel free to attempt to burgle my house and try to prove yourself right.

If you actually believe your own press you are even more stupid than the loud mouthed, foul mouthed, bully image you usually present.

[spacekid2009]

There was of course the case of Tony Martin, who shot and killed an intruder, but very different in many ways, mainly, the intruders were actually inside his home when he shot them, from my memory, i think he ended up with 3 or 5 years for manslaughter.