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[hotel21]

'Twas I who instigated the inital query.  He is totally unwilling to accept that the 03 year is no different to those previous and very confident that Network Q will cover a rebuild/replacement.  Given that it does not apparently conform to manufacturers recomendations, well, not convinced.

As a matter of interest, what would it actually cost at a dealer to replace?

[Markjay]

'Twas I who instigated the inital query.  He is totally unwilling to accept that the 03 year is no different to those previous and very confident that Network Q will cover a rebuild/replacement.  Given that it does not apparently conform to manufacturers recomendations, well, not convinced.

As a matter of interest, what would it actually cost at a dealer to replace?

Their buying price of the cambelt kit - probably £60 + VAT - and 2h labour, probably £30 direct cost. So I’d say £90-£100.

[Taxi_Driver]

'Twas I who instigated the inital query.  He is totally unwilling to accept that the 03 year is no different to those previous and very confident that Network Q will cover a rebuild/replacement.  Given that it does not apparently conform to manufacturers recomendations, well, not convinced.

As a matter of interest, what would it actually cost at a dealer to replace?

Their buying price of the cambelt kit - probably £60 + VAT - and 2h labour, probably £30 direct cost. So I’d say £90-£100.

Cambelt kit for it is £84.66+ vat TC and probably pretty close to what the dealer pays for it, if not a bit less, but that wasnt the question.
Probably around the £350- £400 region  

[Markjay]

'Twas I who instigated the inital query.  He is totally unwilling to accept that the 03 year is no different to those previous and very confident that Network Q will cover a rebuild/replacement.  Given that it does not apparently conform to manufacturers recomendations, well, not convinced.

As a matter of interest, what would it actually cost at a dealer to replace?

Their buying price of the cambelt kit - probably £60 + VAT - and 2h labour, probably £30 direct cost. So I’d say £90-£100.

Cambelt kit for it is £84.66+ vat TC and probably pretty close to what the dealer pays for it, if not a bit less, but that wasnt the question.
Probably around the £350- £400 region  

Quite right - I misread the original post - as you realised I thought the question was how much would the dealer own cost be to get this done....


Yes, I paid £320 at the local Vx dealer, haggled down from their original quote of £420.

[Admin]

I have been chatting to him, nice guy. He is now more accepting that Vx may have given him "incorrect" information.

I wouldn't like to argue the rebuild costs with Network Q, prevention is always better than cure.

[Taxi_Driver]

I have been chatting to him, nice guy. He is now more accepting that Vx may have given him "incorrect" information.

I wouldn't like to argue the rebuild costs with Network Q, prevention is always better than cure.

I agree LB....i think its why when i bought my Omega.....42k on it from a vx dealer and then discovered the dealer hadnt changed the cam belt as part of the service before I picked it up....the dealer with no prompting at all agreed to pay for a cambelt kit change at my local vx dealer......i think it may been a case of if i hadnt asked if the cambelt had been changed and it went ping.....networkq would have probably said supplying dealer should have changed it before selling it to you....they can pay for an engine rebuild!

[STMO123]

God, I love that car

[Admin]

Yep, probably the nicest Omega I have ever seen.  

However it is out of my price range!  

[Taxi_Driver]

Yep, probably the nicest Omega I have ever seen.  

However it is out of my price range!  

Well i wouldnt buy it.....its got its check light on....it might be low on washer fluid  

Nice looking Omega tho  

Write to Santa LB......you never know.....he might use your CC and buy it for you  8-)

[Phil]

Just to throw my 2p in, they did change the tensiners on the later model - engine nos 08300419 and above (IIRC)

So is there not a possiblity that VX realised they had made a cock up (on not only the V6 but also the twin cam engines) and replaced them with a re-designed 'stronger' tensioner??

My early SRi 2ltr Vectra had them changed free of charge as part of a recall so surely it would have been better for Vxl to re-design a better tensioner than save a fortune in re-builds and potential claims??

Like i said just my 2p worth

[Markjay]

Just to throw my 2p in, they did change the tensiners on the later model - engine nos 08300419 and above (IIRC)

So is there not a possiblity that VX realised they had made a cock up (on not only the V6 but also the twin cam engines) and replaced them with a re-designed 'stronger' tensioner??

My early SRi 2ltr Vectra had them changed free of charge as part of a recall so surely it would have been better for Vxl to re-design a better tensioner than save a fortune in re-builds and potential claims??

Like i said just my 2p worth

AA's point was that if this was correct, then there should have been no problem to retrofit the modified tensioners to older engines.... but apparently this is not the case, which casts doubt on the 'modified tensioner' theory....

[Phil]

AA's point was that if this was correct, then there should have been no problem to retrofit the modified tensioners to older engines.... but apparently this is not the case, which casts doubt on the 'modified tensioner' theory....

But they are modified on the later engine, diff ( so i understand) back plate, possibly improved bearings??

Why change the back plate and fixings 'if' the tensioner hasn't been changed???

[Taxi_Driver]

Just to throw my 2p in, they did change the tensiners on the later model - engine nos 08300419 and above (IIRC)

So is there not a possiblity that VX realised they had made a cock up (on not only the V6 but also the twin cam engines) and replaced them with a re-designed 'stronger' tensioner??

My early SRi 2ltr Vectra had them changed free of charge as part of a recall so surely it would have been better for Vxl to re-design a better tensioner than save a fortune in re-builds and potential claims??

Like i said just my 2p worth

AA's point was that if this was correct, then there should have been no problem to retrofit the modified tensioners to older engines.... but apparently this is not the case, which casts doubt on the 'modified tensioner' theory....

Also.....i had my cambelt (supposedly cam belt kit) changed at 42k....then it needed water pump changing (bearing going)  at about 50k....then it was back in again a few k later for tensioner change (bearing going on that too) so if you believe the dealer that did a cambelt kit change on mine....the tensioner lasted about 10k before it needed changing....even if you dont it only lasted just over 50k  :-/

[STMO123]

I guess the concensus is.....better safe than sorry.

I dont care whether network Q or anybody else agreed to do a rebuild, the car just wouldn't be the same, I wouldn't trust it anymore.

[TheBoy]

AA's point was that if this was correct, then there should have been no problem to retrofit the modified tensioners to older engines.... but apparently this is not the case, which casts doubt on the 'modified tensioner' theory....

But they are modified on the later engine, diff ( so i understand) back plate, possibly improved bearings??

Why change the back plate and fixings 'if' the tensioner hasn't been changed???

That 'later' one I think you are referring to was prefacelift - basically 3 ones:
D - early type
EB - replaced D
01 - latest - but still much, much earlier than 2003 cars