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bertiecbx550

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Work place question....
« on: 25 February 2010, 22:23:58 »

As some you already know i was diagnosed in oct/nov with type 2 diabetes.Now our contract has changed to another company and i have a meeting with the national contract manager and supervisor 2mora night. And well i`m worried that they will terminate my contract as i`ve been told by a union rep for usdaw who works on the retail park that i should not be working alone on nights in case i hypo or go into a diabetic coma...An to be quite honest its scared the poo outa me as i know i wont go onto dayshift as there are no vacancies and nobody will swop as they dont want to do permanant nights....So if any body knows how i should handle this please tell me as i`ve already gne through ACAS`s website and cant find any answers there.... :-/ :-/ :(
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« Reply #1 on: 25 February 2010, 22:35:40 »

I doubt there is a specific regulation which prohibits you from working by yoursself Bertie.
If the company treat you in a fashion which could be seen as disadvantaged because of your condition they might be on thin ice legally, let them do the talking if possible, you wont inadvertently dig yourself into a hole that way.Tkae notes of what they are saying, or better still take one of those little dictaphone recorders with you and ask if they mind you using it in case you need to remember who said what etc.
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Re: Work place question....
« Reply #2 on: 26 February 2010, 00:24:40 »

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As some you already know i was diagnosed in oct/nov with type 2 diabetes.Now our contract has changed to another company and i have a meeting with the national contract manager and supervisor 2mora night. And well i`m worried that they will terminate my contract as i`ve been told by a union rep for usdaw who works on the retail park that i should not be working alone on nights in case i hypo or go into a diabetic coma...An to be quite honest its scared the poo outa me as i know i wont go onto dayshift as there are no vacancies and nobody will swop as they dont want to do permanant nights....So if any body knows how i should handle this please tell me as i`ve already gne through ACAS`s website and cant find any answers there.... :-/ :-/ :(
As usual a union rep knows bugger all..
These reactions are mainly associated with  type 1, badly managed type 2 can eventually lead to this
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Re: Work place question....
« Reply #3 on: 26 February 2010, 00:35:12 »

Managed type 2 should not be a problem, you can provide medical evidence from you consultant or GP if necessary and they can not, legally, discriminate against a disability if you are capable of doing the Job. They have to consider redeployment.  You need advice from the Union but suggest you request a more knowledgeable rep....... :)
I am no expert on this but it is an area I am getting into work wise, already had a positive result..... :y
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« Reply #4 on: 26 February 2010, 00:45:57 »

Have you a security guard on site when you are working alone?

If you have then the company can hire a paging system that you carry around with you that is called a lone working device, if for any reason you stop moving for more than 2 mins or collaps on your side for more than 30seconds then it will automatically page a person within a 2 mile radius and alert them there may be a problem.

I work alone and use such a device, our routine is that if the device is triggered then our security contacts me via mobile to firstly check if it a false or emergency alarm, if there is no answer after 3 attempts then he is instructed to contact emergency services and then find me.

Lone Working Regulations:-http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/indg73.pdf

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Re: Work place question....
« Reply #5 on: 26 February 2010, 00:49:43 »

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Have you a security guard on site when you are working alone?

If you have then the company can hire a paging system that you carry around with you that is called a lone working device, if for any reason you stop moving for more than 2 mins or collaps on your side for more than 30seconds then it will automatically page a person within a 2 mile radius and alert them there may be a problem.

I work alone and use such a device, our routine is that if the device is triggered then our security contacts me via mobile to firstly check if it a false or emergency alarm, if there is no answer after 3 attempts then he is instructed to contact emergency services and then find me.

Lone Working Regulations:-http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/indg73.pdf

WHAT I USE
Lone Working device :- http://www.mdh-uk.co.uk/id40.html

Great idea, and lone working is a massive problem.  The difficulty in this case is that being static, with an alarm will stop him oofing while at work....... :D :D
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« Reply #6 on: 26 February 2010, 01:03:41 »

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Have you a security guard on site when you are working alone?

If you have then the company can hire a paging system that you carry around with you that is called a lone working device, if for any reason you stop moving for more than 2 mins or collaps on your side for more than 30seconds then it will automatically page a person within a 2 mile radius and alert them there may be a problem.

I work alone and use such a device, our routine is that if the device is triggered then our security contacts me via mobile to firstly check if it a false or emergency alarm, if there is no answer after 3 attempts then he is instructed to contact emergency services and then find me.

Lone Working Regulations:-http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/indg73.pdf

WHAT I USE
Lone Working device :- http://www.mdh-uk.co.uk/id40.html

Great idea, and lone working is a massive problem.  The difficulty in this case is that being static, with an alarm will stop him oofing while at work....... :D :D

There is away around that ;-)
There is a button that can be pressed to disable the device for 15mis, e.g while having a slash or rest break. Then it gives you a buzz 10seconds early to warn it is going active again, another press of the button gives a following 15mins. ETC ;-)
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« Reply #7 on: 26 February 2010, 02:31:52 »

I am the security for the site and nearest help is either supervisor in telford 2 miles from site or Thurrock control centre....And either of them would have no way of knowing if i have been attacked on site or collapsed as there is no check up phone calls like we used to make under the old company.... :-/ I`m gonna have to have words with the boss 2mora over this and see if a check system can be put into place.... :-/
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Re: Work place question....
« Reply #8 on: 26 February 2010, 05:45:50 »

Don't worry Bertie my wife has type 2 and although she has to be careful i.e. control her diabetes by food she has never had a problem.
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« Reply #9 on: 26 February 2010, 06:31:55 »

Its not the diabetes i`m worried about its the company using it to get rid of me i`m worried about....They have already told us we have to reapply for our jobs in a letter they sent us last week and its worrying me a lot now that they will use this and exploit it. As  there is a rumor  they are going to get rid of nightshift and rely on the cctv thats operated out of glasgow for all the sites nationwide.... :-/ :o
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Re: Work place question....
« Reply #10 on: 26 February 2010, 07:14:09 »

As a night Security Officer working alone on site you should be using a regular check-in system when doing your rounds, and an alarm will be raised if you fail to check in.

One of my Security colleagues is diabetic, though we never work alone and always attend night callouts in pairs, his condition has never interfered with his work (gets a bit stroppy sometimes  ::)).

As a Unison H&S Rep. "who knows bugger all" i would suggest you arrange for your Union Rep to come and see you as quickly as possible (today) and advise accordingly - best to get it sorted out before you end up on the "outside", a much more difficult negotiating position.  :(

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Re: Work place question....
« Reply #11 on: 26 February 2010, 15:57:03 »

I`m no longer in a union i was only given the advice by a usdaw rep cause he works inhouse security at tesco`s on our site....So i`m on me own in 3 hrs time.... :-/
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Re: Work place question....
« Reply #12 on: 26 February 2010, 19:18:16 »

You could get areference from your doctor to ay that your diabetes is well controlled. That way your employer may not be able to use it against you.
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« Reply #13 on: 26 February 2010, 19:24:31 »

I could be wrong here, but isn't diabetes classed as a disability ?.

Maybe a good starting point for you to look at ?.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/DisabledPeople/RightsAndObligations/DisabilityRights/DG_4001069
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« Reply #14 on: 26 February 2010, 23:03:15 »

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I could be wrong here, but isn't diabetes classed as a disability ?.

Maybe a good starting point for you to look at ?.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/DisabledPeople/RightsAndObligations/DisabilityRights/DG_4001069

Like I said........... ::) ::) ::)
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