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Jump Starting.
« on: 23 February 2010, 01:38:17 »
My car is often parked up for weeks on and and suffer a flat bettery every time.  This also means dragging my mate out to climb through the boot and unlock the car, have tried the door locks but allways seem to have a bad time with the doors, especially last time it seems the deadlock would not shift.

I am considering fitting some of the following kit.  But not sure where it would be best fitted.

Also bear in mind I have 2 migs that both have newish batterys on that are both flat most of the ime.  The ability to just plug the 2 cars together after starting one would make my fife so mush easier.

Any suggestions on the best place to fit one on the car, plus do I need the 50 amp or the 175 amp kit.

TIA.   :y

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Re: Jump Starting.
« Reply #1 on: 23 February 2010, 05:19:50 »
It's a similar sort of arrangement that the AA/RAC/GF etc. use.

A better idea, depending how close you're car is to an electrical supply, would be to get something like a CTek charger, that you could leave on charge all the time.

A CTek is small enough to leave under the bonnet, with the bonnet closed.
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Re: Jump Starting.
« Reply #2 on: 23 February 2010, 06:29:26 »
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Re: Jump Starting.
« Reply #3 on: 23 February 2010, 10:30:33 »
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what about this?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/12v-Solar-Panel-Battery-Trickle-Charger-caravan-car-_W0QQitemZ260476312443QQcmdZViewItem?rvr_id=&rvr_id=&cguid=d0b7325c1250a0aad2265396fc5e43db
it will at least provide enough to get the doors open

I use something similar to top up my leisure battery on my caravan when it is parked up as there isn't a power point near by.I have had the same battery for four years now and it still holds a charge.
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Re: Jump Starting.
« Reply #4 on: 23 February 2010, 10:34:51 »
A 10mm spanner works just as well.
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Re: Jump Starting.
« Reply #5 on: 23 February 2010, 10:46:30 »
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My car is often parked up for weeks on and and suffer a flat bettery every time.  This also means dragging my mate out to climb through the boot and unlock the car, have tried the door locks but allways seem to have a bad time with the doors, especially last time it seems the deadlock would not shift.

I am considering fitting some of the following kit.  But not sure where it would be best fitted.

Also bear in mind I have 2 migs that both have newish batterys on that are both flat most of the ime.  The ability to just plug the 2 cars together after starting one would make my fife so mush easier.

Any suggestions on the best place to fit one on the car, plus do I need the 50 amp or the 175 amp kit.

TIA.   :y

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Interesting one, as the boot is the only bit I can't get in via when the battery is flat!

If you reckon your batteries are good then they should not be losing their charge that easily.  Do you have leakage such as the powersounder fault?

Trickle-charger is the best option but some public have been electrocuted when they are left on the car.  There's just an outside chance that the solar panel might be the better option (for once!).
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Re: Jump Starting.
« Reply #6 on: 23 February 2010, 11:09:09 »
Firstly, allowing the battery to go flat frequently will kill it. You need to avoid it going flat rather than tackle jump-starting it.

My vote is also for a trickle charger but it depends if you can get a supply to the car where it is parked. Consider fitting a connector to the exterior of the car so it's easy to hook up and you don't have to leave it with croc clips under the bonnet, etc.

Next best option would be to remove the battery and place it on a smart charger when you know the car is going to be laid up.

If it's not predictable, remove battery periodically (every 2 weeks) when laid-up and connect it to a smart charger such as a Ctek for 48 hours or so. Perhaps keep a spare battery so you can rotate them onto the charger every couple of weeks.

Failing all the above I suppose a solar panel might be better than nothing but it will require wiring directly to the battery through a suitably fused connection, rather than being plugged into the cigar lighter as these do not stay live.

I would be surprised if a solar panel would work well enough during the winter.

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Re: Jump Starting.
« Reply #7 on: 23 February 2010, 11:13:54 »
The solar panel I use has croc clips at one end and a small plug at the other end with approx 6 feet of wire in between.As the plug end is quite small it may be possible to route it through to the cabin from under the bonnet.Just a thought.
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Re: Jump Starting.
« Reply #8 on: 23 February 2010, 11:18:39 »
I had this problem last year.  My Omega doesn't move very much and I suffered a spate of starting failures resulting in the need to have the battery charged up every four or five days or so.

I replaced the battery and all has been well since - except for the EML being on constantly (no effect on performance).  The car hadn't been used for months before I took it on a bit of a run earlier this month, it started first time and ran faultlessly - see reply number 6;


http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1266768799


As an aside, the local dealer wanted £75 plus VAT to re-set the light - he didn't get it, needless to say.
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Re: Jump Starting.
« Reply #9 on: 23 February 2010, 11:46:15 »
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It's a similar sort of arrangement that the AA/RAC/GF etc. use.

A better idea, depending how close you're car is to an electrical supply, would be to get something like a CTek charger, that you could leave on charge all the time.

A CTek is small enough to leave under the bonnet, with the bonnet closed.

Love the idea, but am trying to to sort something so that I dont have to lift the bonnet.

Have considerered something similar though to keep a jump battery charged up.

Will give it more thought though.

Will be making a set of jump leads up with the Anderson connection on one end and clamps on the other.
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« Reply #10 on: 23 February 2010, 11:51:03 »
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/12v-Solar-Panel-Battery-Trickle-Charger-caravan-car-_W0QQitemZ260476312443QQcmdZViewItem?rvr_id=&rvr_id=&cguid=d0b7325c1250a0aad2265396fc5e43db
it will at least provide enough to get the doors open

Suggested this idea on the forum but it was mentioned that with the current climate in this country and the fact that the alrm on the Elite uses battery juice to keep active then they might not be good enough for the job.  :-/
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Re: Jump Starting.
« Reply #11 on: 23 February 2010, 12:47:30 »
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what about this?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/12v-Solar-Panel-Battery-Trickle-Charger-caravan-car-_W0QQitemZ260476312443QQcmdZViewItem?rvr_id=&rvr_id=&cguid=d0b7325c1250a0aad2265396fc5e43db
it will at least provide enough to get the doors open

Suggested this idea on the forum but it was mentioned that with the current climate in this country and the fact that the alrm on the Elite uses battery juice to keep active then they might not be good enough for the job.  :-/
It may not keep it fully charged but will slow down the process at least :y
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Re: Jump Starting.
« Reply #12 on: 23 February 2010, 12:49:56 »
Just charge the battery and leave the earth connection off until you need the car. It takes less than 2 minutes with a 10mm spanner to put it back on.
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Re: Jump Starting.
« Reply #13 on: 23 February 2010, 12:50:21 »
Is the rear ciggy lighter wired via the ignition or is it live all the time?
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Re: Jump Starting.
« Reply #14 on: 23 February 2010, 16:28:51 »
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Is the rear ciggy lighter wired via the ignition or is it live all the time?

It's wired to the ignition, on a timer.
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