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Re: Jump Starting.
« Reply #15 on: 23 February 2010, 16:35:06 »

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Is the rear ciggy lighter wired via the ignition or is it live all the time?

It's wired to the ignition, on a timer.

on a facelift, but prefacelift is just via the ignition  :y
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Re: Jump Starting.
« Reply #16 on: 23 February 2010, 16:39:01 »

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Is the rear ciggy lighter wired via the ignition or is it live all the time?

It's wired to the ignition, on a timer.

on a facelift, but prefacelift is just via the ignition  :y

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Re: Jump Starting.
« Reply #17 on: 23 February 2010, 17:29:32 »

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Is the rear ciggy lighter wired via the ignition or is it live all the time?

It's wired to the ignition, on a timer.

Cheers  :y
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Re: Jump Starting.
« Reply #18 on: 23 February 2010, 17:32:02 »

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Is the rear ciggy lighter wired via the ignition or is it live all the time?

It's wired to the ignition, on a timer.

on a facelift, but prefacelift is just via the ignition  :y


Ahhhh,  have a solar that Ihave have never used, might stick it in the GLSas itdoes nothave an alarm.(Will trickle charge the battery first thoght) :y
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Re: Jump Starting.
« Reply #19 on: 24 February 2010, 21:11:38 »

Ho hum!  It's done it again.  Following the long debate on the flat battery problem (see http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1263728032/15) the car spent a week in the garage having everything tested - even the power sounder.  They couldn't find any problem, and it's been fine since - until today. 

They're coming to start it tomorrow, and then they're going to fit some sort of external input socket that's easier to get to for when this happens again.

So, two questions:

1 - does disconnecting the power sounder affect the insurance - not that anyone (other than a masochist)is likely to steal an 11 year old Omega?

2 - is it likely that a solar battery charger will actually be effective in keeping the battery topped up?

Actually, there's a third question - is a £12.98 solar battery charger from Ebay likely to be any use whatsoever, or should I look for a better one?

Er... that's four questions.  Don't mention the Spanish Inquisition... :(
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Re: Jump Starting.
« Reply #20 on: 24 February 2010, 21:15:12 »

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Just charge the battery and leave the earth connection off until you need the car. It takes less than 2 minutes with a 10mm spanner to put it back on.
I was just thinking that! Saves money on silly kits, simples! 8-)
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Re: Jump Starting.
« Reply #21 on: 24 February 2010, 21:30:58 »

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what about this?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/12v-Solar-Panel-Battery-Trickle-Charger-caravan-car-_W0QQitemZ260476312443QQcmdZViewItem?rvr_id=&rvr_id=&cguid=d0b7325c1250a0aad2265396fc5e43db
it will at least provide enough to get the doors open
My dad had one of these, worked a treat  :y
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Re: Jump Starting.
« Reply #22 on: 28 February 2010, 13:48:41 »

Last time the battery mysteriously died, the garage charged me £25 to get it started again, which seemed reasonable.  They haven't turned up to fix it this time. :(

I'm sure I could do it myself, but I don't have the kit I need.  I saw this in Halfords - anyone know if it's any good?
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_241361_langId_-1_categoryId_165727

I think the jack and stands are rated at 2 tons - is that good enough for an Omega? 

TBH, I can't think I'd use it for much else - too old and fat and lazy to do much of my own servicing.  I'm probably going to get a solar charger as well.
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Re: Jump Starting.
« Reply #23 on: 28 February 2010, 18:47:04 »

 I saw this in Halfords - anyone know if it's any good?
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_241361_langId_-1_categoryId_165727

I think the jack and stands are rated at 2 tons - is that good enough for an Omega? 

dont know if its any good but theres more than 5 parts in it ,and would you use it all?
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Re: Jump Starting.
« Reply #24 on: 28 February 2010, 19:12:31 »

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I saw this in Halfords - anyone know if it's any good?
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_241361_langId_-1_categoryId_165727

I think the jack and stands are rated at 2 tons - is that good enough for an Omega? 

dont know if its any good but theres more than 5 parts in it ,and would you use it all?

Don't need the wheelbrace - I've got one.  Obviously need stands and jack.  Chocks will save me having to find some bricks or whatever.  The slider will help immensely - as I said earlier, I'm old and fat.  And today, with the rain, every bit of me aches, so the thought of wriggling under the car to get at the bits I need to find doesn't appeal greatly.

But the big question is whether or not a 2 ton rating is sufficient for an Omega.
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Re: Jump Starting.
« Reply #25 on: 28 February 2010, 19:23:53 »

How do the axle stands and jack work on jump starting a mig then.   ::)
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« Reply #26 on: 28 February 2010, 19:39:41 »

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How do the axle stands and jack work on jump starting a mig then.   ::)

Because the f*cking machine has locked me out and the only way to get in is to connect a battery to the alternator/starter to provide enough power to open the door to allow me to open the bonnet, turn the ignition on and jump start it in the normal way.

If you have a better suggestion, suggest it now, please. :) :) :) :(
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« Reply #27 on: 28 February 2010, 20:38:51 »

I seem to remember AA had a similar problem with his 2.2, turned out to be a sticky relay staying on....the drain by the relay was flattening the battery.
However, iirc, it was the timer delay relay for the rear ciggie lighter, which only facelifts have.....so your prefacelift won't have this relay......but i guess it could be another relay staying on, that shoudnt be...  :-/ :-/

I dunno if you have tried measuring the current drain, with everything off (which was 1amp, iirc, when i read your other thread) and start pulling fuses and relays to see if the current drain drops significantly  :)
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Re: Jump Starting.
« Reply #28 on: 28 February 2010, 21:35:43 »

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I seem to remember AA had a similar problem with his 2.2, turned out to be a sticky relay staying on....the drain by the relay was flattening the battery.
However, iirc, it was the timer delay relay for the rear ciggie lighter, which only facelifts have.....so your prefacelift won't have this relay......but i guess it could be another relay staying on, that shoudnt be...  :-/ :-/

I dunno if you have tried measuring the current drain, with everything off (which was 1amp, iirc, when i read your other thread) and start pulling fuses and relays to see if the current drain drops significantly  :)

It was in the garage for a week last month and they tried this.  They tried everything.  But it's not a permanent fault.  Two years ago, we went on holiday for nearly 3 weeks, and I was fully expecting to come back to a completely flat battery, but it started first time.  I can usually leave for the best part of a week without any problem.  But every now and again, it just goes.  It's not related to the mileage or the usage - it went within 36 hours of completing a 450 mile motorway trip on on one occasion. 

I won't take it to the dealer, because I can't afford it - I'm looking fo a cheap(ish) solution.
 
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« Reply #29 on: 28 February 2010, 21:43:18 »

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How do the axle stands and jack work on jump starting a mig then.   ::)

Because the f*cking machine has locked me out and the only way to get in is to connect a battery to the alternator/starter to provide enough power to open the door to allow me to open the bonnet, turn the ignition on and jump start it in the normal way.

If you have a better suggestion, suggest it now, please. :) :) :) :(

Unlock the boot, shove the arm rest down, flick the back seat down and crawl through.  Best you unlock the boot and then get one of your neighbers kids to do the rest.

Have you got a tow bar fitted, if so does it have the second socket, if it has I do believe one of the pins should be live, that will give a connection for enough power to open the doors.
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