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[Marks DTM Calib]

thats why we live in a land of free enterprise and not some communist hole in the arse end of nowhere  

Yes, we leave them to make the product in the first place........

[MaxV6]

Just as an aside Markie...
if you have to ask, or even contemplate whether or not you're a bad bad man... the answer is most probably that you're not.

those that are, either KNOW it, or it hasn't even occurred to them that there's a difference.

sleep easy pal.

Max

[STMO123]

The world is full of bad men Markie. On the whole, they seem to do rather well for themselves.

[TheBoy]

Had thought doing same thing myself, but couldn't bring myself to buy Sony crap.

[STMO123]

PS. Just off to have a look at Watchdog, see if you're on it you bad man

[TheBoy]

PS. Just off to have a look at Watchdog, see if you're on it you bad man

I see my favourite boiler was covered...   ...I can confirm they are a heap of junk...

[STMO123]

PS. Just off to have a look at Watchdog, see if you're on it you bad man

I see my favourite boiler was covered...   ...I can confirm they are a heap of junk...

Also a very interesting piece about bank chrges. Anyone whose in dispute with their bank should have a look here:

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/login.php?do=logout&logouthash=2fd7cb86f6c2ffadeb2c5eacedfcd1a6

[MikeDundee]

i wish too....

Got some real hostile looks from colleagues at work hence me asking....at the end of the day the pre order system is there for everyone to buy if they want.  

As long as you share the pre-order link with us folks ,  then I don't see any problems with what you are doing, just jealousy if you ask me, re; funny looks at work

[Paul M]

I can still pre-order one or two today if I want, with a deposit of £100 on each. The reason I haven't is that I'm not convinced there's going to be that much demand for them. The price is high, it's not a particularly busy time of year, and they don't seem to be selling all that well in the US (note: ignore the number of *shipped* units, which includes those sitting on shop shelves). Also the fact there are still pre-orders available leads me to believe demand isn't brilliant.

They will sell out initially, and perhaps create a small premuim for used units, but I don't think we're going to see anything like the huge profits available for selling on X-Box 360s when they came out just before Christmas '05.

[TheBoy]

I can still pre-order one or two today if I want, with a deposit of £100 on each. The reason I haven't is that I'm not convinced there's going to be that much demand for them. The price is high, it's not a particularly busy time of year, and they don't seem to be selling all that well in the US (note: ignore the number of *shipped* units, which includes those sitting on shop shelves). Also the fact there are still pre-orders available leads me to believe demand isn't brilliant.

They will sell out initially, and perhaps create a small premuim for used units, but I don't think we're going to see anything like the huge profits available for selling on X-Box 360s when they came out just before Christmas '05.

There is not the stress for parents to acquire one before Christamas etc.

Also, I believe Sony alienated a lot of loyal customers by admitting that the expensive ps2 emulator they have put in it for older games won't run many games...

[Jimbob]

Have you done this?

Any success?

I notice all the shops around here have stock, but don't know about where you are.

[Markie]

Have you done this?

Any success?

I notice all the shops around here have stock, but don't know about where you are.

yeah but i wont be doing it again as it got a bit scarey - demand was never there like previous consols  

Made about £210 selling 3 pre orders before launch. Didnt get my price for 4th one so i kept it.

Considoring what i made on the first 3 i managed to ( in real terms) grab myself one for £210.  

[Jimbob]

Fair play, not a bad result!  

[Markie]

Fair play, not a bad result!  

was hoping for better  

[Paul M]

That's kinda what I expected... the demand in other markets wasn't great, and with the time of year for the Euro release I'm not surprised there's no great shortage. I think you done quite well to get as much as you did! If you'd waited until launch to capitalise then I expect you'd have made minimal, if any, profit as people realise they're quite freely available.

Now if you'd done that with the X-Box 360 or even the Nintendo Wii, you'd have made an absolute killing!