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[Sixstring]

Hey! DAZ, you sad git....get off the forum and head over to Starcross and go on a nice train ride!
You know you want to.........................

[VXL V6]

Well the Mrs' caravan gets towed down to a very quiet site just above Newquay in the Easter break and stays there until October. The whole family get to use it so the rent of the space becomes chopped up into much smaller chunks. Fortunately it is stored for free at a family members farm out of season.

Don't get the electric hookup costs as we use a leisure battery (We don't go on holiday to watch the TV!) for the lights, electric start for the water heater etc and water pump. The site has a battery charger that's free to use on the rare occasion it needs recharging.

When you have no children it's easy to travel around the world and stay in hotels or take the tent, fair play you should take advantage of the situation! With children I find my budget has to be a little more closely monitored these days!!!!

[Darth Loo-knee]

Hey! DAZ, you sad git....get off the forum and head over to Starcross and go on a nice train ride!
You know you want to.........................

I am at Cofton so literally up the road from Starcross. We went to the Ship yesterday for something to eat where I sampled Yellow Hammer and Tribute Beers which made me feel very good indeed lmao.......
If the weather goes off a bit I may try the railway but really aint my thing Yet lol



 

[Darth Loo-knee]

Well the Mrs' caravan gets towed down to a very quiet site just above Newquay in the Easter break and stays there until October. The whole family get to use it so the rent of the space becomes chopped up into much smaller chunks. Fortunately it is stored for free at a family members farm out of season.

Don't get the electric hookup costs as we use a leisure battery (We don't go on holiday to watch the TV!) for the lights, electric start for the water heater etc and water pump. The site has a battery charger that's free to use on the rare occasion it needs recharging.

When you have no children it's easy to travel around the world and stay in hotels or take the tent, fair play you should take advantage of the situation! With children I find my budget has to be a little more closely monitored these days!!!!

I think you have hit the nail on the head..... Children do make a difference.

[Sixstring]

The Ship.......Is jerry still there?

Yellow hammer......yummy!

Glad you are having a good time, see ya on the return trip!!

Mike.

[Seth]

Go for it Daz - you know it makes sense!

From a legal viewpoint, I'm pretty sure that any twin-axle 'van is too heavy for an Omega though.
The Maximum Totally Permitted Laden Mass (MTPLM), must not exceed 85% of the towing vehicle's unladen weight.
Entwood's 'well genned-up' on this very point, and can probably confirm further.
 
Our single-axle 5-berth Bailey Ranger 500/5 is just within the Miggy's LEGAL capability.
Our preferred Bailey Pageant Auvergne model is a few kilos over that limit.
 
And dampness - the achilles heel of touring 'vans .....
It may be evident without any odours present - I know mate, been there and got the T-shirt!
Got a damp meter here if you want this checked-out.
 
Oh, and siting it.
It's a 'seasonal pitch' that you'll be wanting!
 

[Sixstring]

Byron...
Isn't that different weights on an estate...i.e 85% of an estates weight means Bailey pageant auvergne is (just) ok??

Think Daz wants to tow it with an estate. (could be wrong???)

[Seth]

Byron...
Isn't that different weights on an estate...i.e 85% of an estates weight means Bailey pageant auvergne is (just) ok??

Think Daz wants to tow it with an estate. (could be wrong???)

Aye, the Estates are indeed different weights.
Their Maximum Authorised Mass (MAM) as deemed by Vx; meant that the Auvergne was/is a tad too heavy due to it's MTPLM.

There are also the associated insurance implications too.
Don't want to put a 'dampener' on things, you understand - I just like things to be legal and safe.
 

[Darth Loo-knee]

As far i knew the 85% weight your talking about was something to do with the Caravan Club or something like that as a guide. I was told at a caravan dealer we went to said that you can tow the same weight  caravan as it has its own breaking system.
What puzzled me was when we had Range Rovers which dont weigh that much more than an estate, you could tow a 3.5 tonne breaked trailer! Is a caravan not a breaked trailer?
 

[sexydaz]

the sums don't add up for my for Caravans.

Huge investment in the van , £14k!? what.the? + service & maintenance costs + storage + insurance + heavy fuel consumption towing + pitch fee's + electric once your there, not forgetting depreciation of the van as well. Not to mention they are planet killing plastic tin boxes which block up the roads! /rant

The service costs, storage and extra fuel used will get you a lot of hotel rooms!

I like camping, just chuck tent in the boot and off you go, do quite a few blasts to Europe. Usual motorway cruise speeds, good fuel usage, and its cheap as chips for a tent pitch.

Tunnie do you ever have any fun without evaluating the finnacial implications to it. 

pmsl...he can put a price on goin for turd(well the average person uses 4 sheets per wipe but i find that cutting it down to three measured up over the whole roll you can have 7.8 more dumps per roll and save 13.9 pence)

[Martin_1962]

the sums don't add up for my for Caravans.

Huge investment in the van , £14k!? what.the? + service & maintenance costs + storage + insurance + heavy fuel consumption towing + pitch fee's + electric once your there, not forgetting depreciation of the van as well. Not to mention they are planet killing plastic tin boxes which block up the roads! /rant

The service costs, storage and extra fuel used will get you a lot of hotel rooms!

I like camping, just chuck tent in the boot and off you go, do quite a few blasts to Europe. Usual motorway cruise speeds, good fuel usage, and its cheap as chips for a tent pitch.

Tunnie do you ever have any fun without evaluating the finnacial implications to it. 

pmsl...he can put a price on goin for turd(well the average person uses 4 sheets per wipe but i find that cutting it down to three measured up over the whole roll you can have 7.8 more dumps per roll and save 13.9 pence)

More like 20

[tunnie]

how do you think i managed to save 30k in less than 3 years? 

[Andy B]

......
The Maximum Totally Permitted Laden Mass (MTPLM), must not exceed 85% of the towing vehicle's unladen weight.  ......

As daz quite rightly says, 85% is a Caravan Club GUIDE for inexperienced tow-ers    You can to weight fro weight if you want, I really don't know if the law says yu can tow heavier, but you just need to be aware that you've to able to stop it. You don't want the tail wagging the dog. 

[sexydaz]

my personal oppinion is stay away from baileys they have quite a few damp issues and cracked back panels and i always find them basic,the materials they use are chep and flimsy..elddis not that long ago had an issue with build quality and it was only if the dealer could be bothered did they reach the customer ok,but in the last 2 to 3 years i think they have pulled their act together and the vans leave the factory a lot better so if yer go down the elddis route you want a newish one and baileys you want an older one,theres some big old lunars out there called deltas which if theyre dry are a good big light van..and i would stay away from foreign vans as there hard to move on,dealers dont like adrias,dethleffs and so on if you see a nice big van thats cheap and too good to be true(it is)its somat nobody wants and you would struggle to sell it on or its nicked or damp as chuff,inj the trade swifts have the nick name soggy swift..if you ever see owt yer fancy let me know and il look the price up and if any issues

[sexydaz]

although if i could afford i would buy a coachman and i love the lay out in this amara 570/6
http://www.coachman.co.uk/amara-range/interior