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Water filter
« on: 30 August 2010, 18:24:21 »

We live in a hard water area and have a resin filter under the sink for drinking water. The filters cost about £18 every six months. I would really like to buy the resin granules direct, and fill the canisters myself, as I'm sure if I could get a supplier it would be cheaper. Anyone here know of a source for these resin granules?

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Re: Water filter
« Reply #1 on: 30 August 2010, 18:29:13 »

Is it not just special 'Salt'?

We used to have a 'RainSoft' water system with cost a few grand to have installed.  That just needed salt to be added.... not your usual table salt, and larger pieces than standard Dishwasher Salt also, although, I'm sure Dishwasher Salt would do the job.
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Re: Water filter
« Reply #2 on: 30 August 2010, 18:44:01 »

If its a filtration setup then it will be filter not resin granuals.....
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Re: Water filter
« Reply #3 on: 30 August 2010, 18:58:50 »

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Is it not just special 'Salt'?

We used to have a 'RainSoft' water system with cost a few grand to have installed.  That just needed salt to be added.... not your usual table salt, and larger pieces than standard Dishwasher Salt also, although, I'm sure Dishwasher Salt would do the job.

Thats what I thought.

My kid btoher had a mate who was a scientist, and he spilled the beams on a few things for us one night.

First was water filters and what a con thet were for a particular type, another fad at the time had just started were the water jell packets at the makets. tip the kell stuff in a vase, add a rose a top with water and it looked like a vase full of ice.

Told us how to make TNT and also why you cant remove dye from diesel and how you may even be stuffed if it's been in the tank just once.  Sadly I cant remember any of it.  A very amazing guy and not nerdy /geecky in the slightest.
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Re: Water filter
« Reply #4 on: 30 August 2010, 19:01:53 »

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If its a filtration setup then it will be filter not resin granuals.....

What d'ya reckon is inside the filter?  :-/
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Re: Water filter
« Reply #5 on: 30 August 2010, 19:04:46 »

We have a water softener for the rest of the house with salt blocks.

This is unsoftened drinking water, and the filter is described as a resin filter, and takes small white resin granules, which keeps the limescale scum off your tea, and also stops the kettle furring up. Sometimes I can get a refill of granules only, but it is still quite pricey. It works well.
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Re: Water filter
« Reply #6 on: 30 August 2010, 19:07:26 »

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We have a water softener for the rest of the house with salt blocks.

This is unsoftened drinking water, and the filter is described as a resin filter, and takes small white resin granules, which keeps the limescale scum off your tea, and also stops the kettle furring up. Sometimes I can get a refill of granules only, but it is still quite pricey. It works well.

I dont follow.  Why not just use 'softened' water for drinking?  The water softener will remove all particles, including lime, so you wont get any problems.... well, shouldnt get any problems anyways?
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Re: Water filter
« Reply #7 on: 30 August 2010, 19:08:49 »

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We have a water softener for the rest of the house with salt blocks.

This is unsoftened drinking water, and the filter is described as a resin filter, and takes small white resin granules, which keeps the limescale scum off your tea, and also stops the kettle furring up. Sometimes I can get a refill of granules only, but it is still quite pricey. It works well.

why...its doing the same as the water softener
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« Reply #8 on: 30 August 2010, 19:09:25 »

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We have a water softener for the rest of the house with salt blocks.

This is unsoftened drinking water, and the filter is described as a resin filter, and takes small white resin granules, which keeps the limescale scum off your tea, and also stops the kettle furring up. Sometimes I can get a refill of granules only, but it is still quite pricey. It works well.

I dont follow.  Why not just use 'softened' water for drinking?  The water softener will remove all particles, including lime, so you wont get any problems.... well, shouldnt get any problems anyways?

The water softener will only remove limescale  :(
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Re: Water filter
« Reply #9 on: 30 August 2010, 19:14:12 »

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We have a water softener for the rest of the house with salt blocks.

This is unsoftened drinking water, and the filter is described as a resin filter, and takes small white resin granules, which keeps the limescale scum off your tea, and also stops the kettle furring up. Sometimes I can get a refill of granules only, but it is still quite pricey. It works well.

I dont follow.  Why not just use 'softened' water for drinking?  The water softener will remove all particles, including lime, so you wont get any problems.... well, shouldnt get any problems anyways?

The water softener will only remove limescale  :(

Limescale, Calcium, Iron, Sodium, Sediment, A-N Other Foreign Objects, Odours, Colours. etc etc etc
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Re: Water filter
« Reply #10 on: 30 August 2010, 19:14:22 »

They`re probably Polyphosphate granules/crystals.....IIRC there was a seller on eBay selling refill sachets.

*search for polyphosphate/anti-scale water-filters or 'Koi' filter refills etc.

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« Reply #11 on: 30 August 2010, 19:18:41 »

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We have a water softener for the rest of the house with salt blocks.

This is unsoftened drinking water, and the filter is described as a resin filter, and takes small white resin granules, which keeps the limescale scum off your tea, and also stops the kettle furring up. Sometimes I can get a refill of granules only, but it is still quite pricey. It works well.

I dont follow.  Why not just use 'softened' water for drinking?  The water softener will remove all particles, including lime, so you wont get any problems.... well, shouldnt get any problems anyways?

The water softener will only remove limescale  :(

Limescale, Calcium, Iron, Sodium, Sediment, A-N Other Foreign Objects, Odours, Colours. etc etc etc

A standard water softener wont, its a resin setup (ion exchange) which removes the limescale, it requires a filter to get rid of sediment and all the other gunk.

It might remove the iron and mangenese if there are only low levels present but thats all it will do.
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Re: Water filter
« Reply #12 on: 30 August 2010, 20:42:38 »

It is still recommended that a tap is available for drinking water that is not softened via the salt filled softener. The filter I am  referring to is used for filling the kettle/iron/coffee maker via a small spout at the side of the sink, this is the refill,

http://www.pureflo.co.uk/product/26/hardness-filter-refill.html

and we use a normal tap for unsoftened drinking water, which we prefer to drink from anyway, to that from other taps in the house which provide softened water.

Thanks for all your suggestions, but we are happy with our setup, I just want the granules.
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Re: Water filter
« Reply #13 on: 31 August 2010, 15:27:03 »

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We have a water softener for the rest of the house with salt blocks.

This is unsoftened drinking water, and the filter is described as a resin filter, and takes small white resin granules, which keeps the limescale scum off your tea, and also stops the kettle furring up. Sometimes I can get a refill of granules only, but it is still quite pricey. It works well.

I dont follow.  Why not just use 'softened' water for drinking?  The water softener will remove all particles, including lime, so you wont get any problems.... well, shouldnt get any problems anyways?

As I understand it, the softening process can leave the water with much higher sodium levels.

Water softened by a machine is not the same as naturally soft water found in some areas. This is naturally soft because it hasn't filtered and percolated through the chalk layers found in the geology of hard water areas.
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We have a water softener for the rest of the house with salt blocks.

This is unsoftened drinking water, and the filter is described as a resin filter, and takes small white resin granules, which keeps the limescale scum off your tea, and also stops the kettle furring up. Sometimes I can get a refill of granules only, but it is still quite pricey. It works well.

I dont follow.  Why not just use 'softened' water for drinking?  The water softener will remove all particles, including lime, so you wont get any problems.... well, shouldnt get any problems anyways?

As I understand it, the softening process can leave the water with much higher sodium levels.

Water softened by a machine is not the same as naturally soft water found in some areas. This is naturally soft because it hasn't filtered and percolated through the chalk layers found in the geology of hard water areas.

In reality its doesn't

The process does not rely on sodium being present all the time, it works by 're-generating' the resin by immersing it in a high salt bath for a period of time.

It then fully rinses the resin with fresh water.

Hence, there is is very little if any left.

And hence also why its perfectly safe to drink.
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