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[Sixstring]

I reckon we ought to have a list of "standard" jobs that most people have to do on the omega, with times approximately to do, tools required, and a legend to sygnify the level of competance to do it,
i.e.

easy-peasy, anybody could do it #
quite easy, bit fiddly to do, but within the scope of most##
ok, but a pain in the arse to do, and time consuming###
quite hard, experienced spanner mongers job####
hard job, hard to do without some specialist facilities/tools#####
experienced engineers only, expensive, and poss main dealer for the majority of owners######

for example,

COIL PACK on 3.0 V6

must have torx sockets, ###, takes about 2hrs



and FRONT WISHBONES AND DROP LINKS

must have axle stands and good size levers with torque wrench ####, takes at least all morning.

you all know what I'm saying.........there are some really experienced engineers on here, but a lot of people are encouraged to have a go themselves at doing their own repairs. Just some sort of list to say "yes, have a go", or not really, you need a few more tools and expertise to attempt this"  might stop a few people starting a job and not being able to do it, or buggering it up for lack of correct tools or facilities.

[Lizzie_Zoom]

I like the idea SS

I take it the ratings would be coupled with the maintenance guides?

[Sixstring]

That was the idea, Lizzie.......

imagine a relatively inexperienced mechanically owner, who wants to do the dispack on his/her V6 looking at this and thinking "yeah, I can do that"   just encourages and informs at the same time.
Lets be honest, anything that makes people want to work on their own cars is good??

[Lizzie_Zoom]

That was the idea, Lizzie.......

imagine a relatively inexperienced mechanically owner, who wants to do the dispack on his/her V6 looking at this and thinking "yeah, I can do that"   just encourages and informs at the same time.
Lets be honest, anything that makes people want to work on their own cars is good??

Absolutely right!!

Personally I started learning to work on cars at 12 years of age, but there are many people who would do later in life if they had the confidence to do so.  The knowledge of how to is the next step. 8-) 8-)

[Iain]

I think that's a good idea 

[unlucky alf]

Yup this is a sensible idea, i think the reason haynes manuals use the spanner icons is because thats how many spanners on average get thrown across the garage in frustration.

[Jimbob]

Yes, but who decides, and adds the ratings?

and do the ratings go in each guide (very time consuming) or just the index?

interested to hear views 

[Mysteryman]

I reckon we ought to have a list of "standard" jobs that most people have to do on the omega, with times approximately to do, tools required, and a legend to sygnify the level of competance to do it,
i.e.

easy-peasy, anybody could do it #
quite easy, bit fiddly to do, but within the scope of most##
ok, but a pain in the arse to do, and time consuming###
quite hard, experienced spanner mongers job####
hard job, hard to do without some specialist facilities/tools#####
experienced engineers only, expensive, and poss main dealer for the majority of owners######

for example,

COIL PACK on 3.0 V6

must have torx sockets, ###, takes about 2hrs



and FRONT WISHBONES AND DROP LINKS

must have axle stands and good size levers with torque wrench ####, takes at least all morning.

you all know what I'm saying.........there are some really experienced engineers on here, but a lot of people are encouraged to have a go themselves at doing their own repairs. Just some sort of list to say "yes, have a go", or not really, you need a few more tools and expertise to attempt this"  might stop a few people starting a job and not being able to do it, or buggering it up for lack of correct tools or facilities.

I think Mr Haynes thought of this one a while back, you spanner.

[Welung666]

Good idea

How about this little fella?

[Sixstring]

Indeed he did you socket, but I was suggesting we adopted the idea for our "how to" guides, not claiming the idea as my own.

Thought it might inspire a few people to "have a go"

didn't think it was a vehicle to "extract the michael"

[Mysteryman]

Indeed he did you socket, but I was suggesting we adopted the idea for our "how to" guides, not claiming the idea as my own.

Thought it might inspire a few people to "have a go"

didn't think it was a vehicle to "extract the michael"

Oh yes it is.

[Proz]

Yeah i like this idea 

[Sixstring]

Yes, but who decides, and adds the ratings?
and do the ratings go in each guide (very time consuming) or just the index?

interested to hear views 

I think the same person who put in the guide could decide how easy/hard it was to do, taking into account how experienced they are themselves, and putting themselves in the position of someone less experienced of course.
i.e. I might find something easy, but I'm an engineer by trade. Mr D.I.Y might find it a lot harder, cos he's not, so will give it an appropriate rating for that person.

[Welung666]

Yes, but who decides, and adds the ratings?

and do the ratings go in each guide (very time consuming) or just the index?

interested to hear views 

Ratings should be the concesus of the knowledgable members of the admin team.

Timings should be somewhere between what TIS states and the actual time the job takes, this allows for the less experienced to get close to the estimated times.

For ease I'd say just the index but if the masses would prefer them in each guide then I'd happily offer to do it on my many sleepless/insomnia nights.

[Sixstring]

Nice one Lee, you get what I mean.