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[Lizzie_Zoom]

What a sad situation, it's a typical action by the the management not looking at the "bigger picture" I hope everything works out for the lad. I have a relative who specialises in employment law, I'll run this case by him and p.m. you his opinion

Having sought advice regarding this to put it bluntly the Ford dealership are up sh*t creek for the following reasons.
The company would find it difficult to site H&S as a reason for dismissal due to the fact that it does not seem to have been a problem over the last fifteen years. Even if the company say that the situation has changed,there are set proceedures that must be followed, reviews and asessments etc. If the company thought that his presence in the workplace would cause imminant risk they would have to suspend him on full pay until the reviews were completed.
If it were to go to a tribunal the company would be in for the high jump if disability discrimination was prooved, and the lad could be in for cosiderable compensation not only for loss of earnings but also any phycological damage caused by his dismissal.
In answer to Lizzies question yes there are grants available to businesses that take on people wth both pysical and mental issues.

Thanks Tony, much appreciated!!

I was beginning to think my posts had become invisable!!

[Mysteryman]

What a sad situation, it's a typical action by the the management not looking at the "bigger picture" I hope everything works out for the lad. I have a relative who specialises in employment law, I'll run this case by him and p.m. you his opinion

Having sought advice regarding this to put it bluntly the Ford dealership are up sh*t creek for the following reasons.
The company would find it difficult to site H&S as a reason for dismissal due to the fact that it does not seem to have been a problem over the last fifteen years. Even if the company say that the situation has changed,there are set proceedures that must be followed, reviews and asessments etc. If the company thought that his presence in the workplace would cause imminant risk they would have to suspend him on full pay until the reviews were completed.
If it were to go to a tribunal the company would be in for the high jump if disability discrimination was prooved, and the lad could be in for cosiderable compensation not only for loss of earnings but also any phycological damage caused by his dismissal.
In answer to Lizzies question yes there are grants available to businesses that take on people wth both pysical and mental issues.

Thanks Tony, much appreciated!!

I was beginning to think my posts had become invisable!!

Who said that!?

[Lizzie_Zoom]

What a sad situation, it's a typical action by the the management not looking at the "bigger picture" I hope everything works out for the lad. I have a relative who specialises in employment law, I'll run this case by him and p.m. you his opinion

Having sought advice regarding this to put it bluntly the Ford dealership are up sh*t creek for the following reasons.
The company would find it difficult to site H&S as a reason for dismissal due to the fact that it does not seem to have been a problem over the last fifteen years. Even if the company say that the situation has changed,there are set proceedures that must be followed, reviews and asessments etc. If the company thought that his presence in the workplace would cause imminant risk they would have to suspend him on full pay until the reviews were completed.
If it were to go to a tribunal the company would be in for the high jump if disability discrimination was prooved, and the lad could be in for cosiderable compensation not only for loss of earnings but also any phycological damage caused by his dismissal.
In answer to Lizzies question yes there are grants available to businesses that take on people wth both pysical and mental issues.

Thanks Tony, much appreciated!!

I was beginning to think my posts had become invisable!!

Who said that!?

You heard me then Steve!

At the moment though it seems not many are able or want to hear!!

[albitz]

I was instantly dismissed by my employer 2 years ago, due to a physical disability - shut up STMO, it was physical  -  I had been employed by them for 20 years, and they were aware of the disability.
Part of their reasoning was similar to this case - protecting me and my workmates from possible H&S issues which could arise from my disability etc.
The tribunal awarded me £15,000 compensation for  wrongful/unfair dismissal and Disability discrimination.
The sad end to the story was that the employer went into administration before the tribunal. They started up again under a slightly different name and carried on as normal, but in the legal sense the company didnt exist any more, so I had no possible way of obtaining the award. 
So my close love affair with a new R1 was never to be.

[Mysteryman]

I was instantly dismissed by my employer 2 years ago, due to a physical disability - shut up STMO, it was physical  -  I had been employed by them for 20 years, and they were aware of the disability.
Part of their reasoning was similar to this case - protecting me and my workmates from possible H&S issues which could arise from my disability etc.
The tribunal awarded me £15,000 compensation for  wrongful/unfair dismissal and Disability discrimination.
The sad end to the story was that the employer went into administration before the tribunal. They started up again under a slightly different name and carried on as normal, but in the legal sense the company didnt exist any more, so I had no possible way of obtaining the award. 
So my close love affair with a new R1 was never to be.

I hate, I mean, rather hate that piece of legislation. The debts of a company should be tied to the people that run/ran it. Bastards get away with murder.

[albitz]

Me too, the family who own the business have made many millions from it over the years. Put it all in the sons name and carry on regardless. Several small companies went bust due to what they were owed.
They made the workforce redundant - didnt pay the months wages or redundancy money, the taxpayer paid it. A short time later, they took them back on again and carried on. It shouldnt be allowed.

[Tony H]

A friend of ours has a son in his late 30's.  Some would say that he is 'touched' but the reality is, he has a mental age of perhaps 10 or 12.  Powerfull lad, polite, well brought up, but is very much what is called kindly up this way, the daft laddie.

He has worked at a local Ford dealership for the past 15 years for 3 days a week, sweeping up, emptying bins, generally tidying up and hanging off the end of breaker bars when asked.  he is well looked after by the guys in the workshop and very much considered part of the fixtures and fittings.

On Friday, he was called into the workshop managers office and told that he is being, effectively, sacked.  Apparently Elf and Softy have done an inspection and are fearfull of both his and other workpersons safety as he does not have a 'one to one' overseer.

Now, during the past 15 years, there has not been the slightest problem either with him, or others, safetyand indeed, he is very much part of the team.

Whats very much the unknown is, is this just a ploy by management to save less than £100 a week or does health and safety really have that much of a say so?  either way, to me, its a very sad reflection on our current society that this lad who no fault of his own, is able to get himself back and forward to a place of work on public transport and feel that he is a part of society and earn a wage, rather than be incumbent on the state?

Miffed?  Me?  Just a tad..... 

Thinking about this a little more, dependant on how many hours a day he works the company may be in breach of minimum wage legislation.

[hotel21]

Thanks to all who contributed to this thread.  Its appreciated...

As said, I only got the bare bones on Sunday as we left and today, had a run to Newcastle and back on the hurry up and never had a chance to persue.  Wednesday is another day...

Again, thanks to all.  Will keep you updated.