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[Mysteryman]

...really is a tosser. He sees himself as some kind of union god. Surely he realises that Noddy could get what his members wanted if he could bring the capital to a standstill. I'd like to have seen him handle the BA dispute, Willy Walsh would have laughed him out of town.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

A kind ....gentle and much maligned man..

[albitz]

He is a subversive. Intern him indefinately.

[Nickbat]

...really is a tosser. He sees himself as some kind of union god. Surely he realises that Noddy could get what his members wanted if he could bring the capital to a standstill. I'd like to have seen him handle the BA dispute, Willy Walsh would have laughed him out of town.

What, THIS Bob Crowe?

BOB CROW, RMT Total: £128,226
Comprising Pay: £84,923
Pension contributions: £28,088
Expenses: £9,931
Travel (including petrol): £5,284

 

[Mysteryman]

...really is a tosser. He sees himself as some kind of union god. Surely he realises that Noddy could get what his members wanted if he could bring the capital to a standstill. I'd like to have seen him handle the BA dispute, Willy Walsh would have laughed him out of town.

What, THIS Bob Crowe?

BOB CROW, RMT Total: £128,226
Comprising Pay: £84,923
Pension contributions: £28,088
Expenses: £9,931
Travel (including petrol): £5,284

 

Just been watching on depatches that Derek Simpson gets £200,000, and lives in a £800,000 house for £1 a week.

[Mysteryman]

...really is a tosser. He sees himself as some kind of union god. Surely he realises that Noddy could get what his members wanted if he could bring the capital to a standstill. I'd like to have seen him handle the BA dispute, Willy Walsh would have laughed him out of town.

What, THIS Bob Crowe?

BOB CROW, RMT Total: £128,226
Comprising Pay: £84,923
Pension contributions: £28,088
Expenses: £9,931
Travel (including petrol): £5,284

 

Just been watching on depatches that Derek Simpson gets £200,000, and lives in a £800,000 house for £1 a week.

It gets worse:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1120543/Unite-union-members-foot-chiefs-800-000-grace-favour-home.html

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Stop picking on a poor defenceless union boss you lot......

[Dishevelled Den]

Stop picking on a poor defenceless union boss you lot......

I'm with you on that Opti, it's a bloody disgrace.

[Mysteryman]

Stop picking on a poor defenceless union boss you lot......

:-/ :-/ :-/

[albitz]

I noticed that the unions at the Beeb are going on strike soon.
By pure coincidence at will be at the same time as the Tory party conference.
Abolish the licence fee, make them hitch their gravy train up to the free market, and see how long it takes for someone to discover that many of them are freeloaders and the corporation can survive just as well with far fewer employees.

[Banjax]

I noticed that the unions at the Beeb are going on strike soon.
By pure coincidence at will be at the same time as the Tory party conference.
Abolish the licence fee, make them hitch their gravy train up to the free market, and see how long it takes for someone to discover that many of them are freeloaders and the corporation can survive just as well with far fewer employees.

as an aside:
let Rupert and his demonspawn run it 

my Sky Bill (approx) : £30/month = £360 
BBC license fee: £143

with Sky I watch primarily BBC2, BBC3, BBC4, BBC News with a little Sky News and Gold thrown in.

For comedy: E4 (well the Daily Show anyway). Comedy Central, oh and Fox News, obviously.

away from TV BBC radio is rarely off (mainly 4, 5 and 6) plus the excellent Beeb website 

Personally I'd rather give the Beeb £360 and Rupert £144, I guess I quite like having a massive, independent broadcaster not beholden to commercial interests - I'd go freeview in a heartbeat if the wife didn't watch so much garbage on Sky 


and back to the thread:
Anyone and everyone, Albs has the right to withdraw labour surely? I don't support every strike, but I support the right to strike, and Bob Crowe, as an old school leftie seems more popular than ever with his members....so whats the problem?

[Chris_H]

I noticed that the unions at the Beeb are going on strike soon.
By pure coincidence at will be at the same time as the Tory party conference.
Abolish the licence fee, make them hitch their gravy train up to the free market, and see how long it takes for someone to discover that many of them are freeloaders and the corporation can survive just as well with far fewer employees.

Engineering in TV broadcasting has taken up quite a bit of my life and although I was ITV, the BBC was always viewed with high regard.  Lately, however, their technical standards are falling at a rate of knots.  There was a promo on this morning for a Panorama coming up and the sounds levels were atrocious.  The transition from an engineering-based service to a media-lead one has got ahead of itself.  And its all about money.

[Dishevelled Den]

I noticed that the unions at the Beeb are going on strike soon.
By pure coincidence at will be at the same time as the Tory party conference.
Abolish the licence fee, make them hitch their gravy train up to the free market, and see how long it takes for someone to discover that many of them are freeloaders and the corporation can survive just as well with far fewer employees.

Engineering in TV broadcasting has taken up quite a bit of my life and although I was ITV, the BBC was always viewed with high regard.  Lately, however, their technical standards are falling at a rate of knots.  There was a promo on this morning for a Panorama coming up and the sounds levels were atrocious.  The transition from an engineering-based service to a media-lead one has got ahead of itself.  And its all about money.

The transition from an engineering-based service to a media-lead one has got ahead of itself.  And its all about money.

I certainly agree with that. The lusts for market share/dominance and the need to be at the forefront of media dispersal, along with political interference, have all conspired to devalue to worth of the state broadcaster.

Should anyone wish to evaluate how undesirable some of these factors can be in a broadcaster, look at Sky/Newscorp?

[Dishevelled Den]

and back to the thread:
Anyone and everyone, Albs has the right to withdraw labour surely? I don't support every strike, but I support the right to strike, and Bob Crowe, as an old school leftie seems more popular than ever with his members....so whats the problem?

You're right enough about the withdrawl of labour BJ.

Insofar as the 'old school lefties' are concerned - have they any place in today's labour movement.

Such pig-headed, power-crazed, politically motivated (nakedly so) and self oriented leadership all but did for the country – and the workforce - in the recent past.

If this particular man is lauded by the union membership, then we all have a right to be concerned.

[albitz]

I noticed that the unions at the Beeb are going on strike soon.
By pure coincidence at will be at the same time as the Tory party conference.
Abolish the licence fee, make them hitch their gravy train up to the free market, and see how long it takes for someone to discover that many of them are freeloaders and the corporation can survive just as well with far fewer employees.

as an aside:
let Rupert and his demonspawn run it 

my Sky Bill (approx) : £30/month = £360 
BBC license fee: £143

with Sky I watch primarily BBC2, BBC3, BBC4, BBC News with a little Sky News and Gold thrown in.

For comedy: E4 (well the Daily Show anyway). Comedy Central, oh and Fox News, obviously.

away from TV BBC radio is rarely off (mainly 4, 5 and 6) plus the excellent Beeb website 

Personally I'd rather give the Beeb £360 and Rupert £144, I guess I quite like having a massive, independent broadcaster not beholden to commercial interests - I'd go freeview in a heartbeat if the wife didn't watch so much garbage on Sky 


and back to the thread:
Anyone and everyone, Albs has the right to withdraw labour surely? I don't support every strike, but I support the right to strike, and Bob Crowe, as an old school leftie seems more popular than ever with his members....so whats the problem?

The point is that you have a choice wether or not you pay Rupert. I would like to be given the choice wether or not I pay a tax to the BBC just to have the right to watch my own TV.
If they are willing to allow me not to pay the licence fee on the condition that I dont watch any of their left wing dross programmes, then I am happy for them to broadcast as many hours of propaganda as they like.
I noticed recently that the director general  Mark Thompson - admitted that the Beeb has in the past had a left wing bias, although according to him it no longer does.
As for the right to withdraw labour - employees should have the right to withdraw Labour, but employers should also have the right to dismiss them if they do. Otherwise its not a level playing field. I also think that there is a good argument to be made for public servants - anyone who is paid from taxpayers money - not having the right to strike at all. they are supposed to be public servants after all.
I certainly balieve that the govt. should presently be introducing new legislation to tie the public sector unions in knots before they try to bring the country to its knees in the near future.
If Crowe really is more popular than ever with his members, that to me demonstrates that his members are far to stupid to be allowed to make decisions for themselves. Although I suspect old Bob worked that one out a long time ago.