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[Martin_1962]

I think meat should be slaughtered in the least stressful way, anything stressful should be clamped down on.

Personally I think Halall is wrong

[HolyCount]

The whys and wherefores of the method of execution are secondary, I feel, to the issue of openess and honesty.

The providers are probably of the opinion that if we (that is the non-muslim population) knew the meat was halal, we wouldn't buy it.  So they "lie by ommission" to protect their profits as it's cheaper than providing two seperate lines of produce. Not that we'd know which was which if they switched labels anyway!!!

As I have said before ( and no doubt will again  ) I will accept the allowances we are all forced to make to muslims and non-christian faiths (bearing in mind we are a supposedly Christian Country) when I can walk down any High Street in Saudi swigging from a bottle of vodka with a bikini clad women on my arm and for that to be acceptable to the indiginous race!

I suppose I should now also be taking bites, between swigs, of a beef sarnie, where the beef was killed according to british slaugter codes, bought in a local Saudi supermarket

 .... ain't gonna happpen !


I might add I have no problems with whatever religion anybody is.  I don't impose my thoughts and beliefs on them and I expect the same courtesy in return.

[Martin_1962]

No mention of Pork!

[HolyCount]

No mention of Pork!

I could well be wrong but I thought muslims ate pork. 'Tis the Jewish Community that have problems there.

[Banjax]

No mention of Pork!

 

I think we should set up a shop selling Halal Pork Pies 

[Gaffers]

tbh, with the exception of chicken, the way that abbatoirs kill animals is hardly humane.  Due to BSE they are electrocuted with 20k volts in a process which takes about 30-60 secs.

Thats why I feel better eating meat I have hunted and killed myself with a clean head/heart shot

[HolyCount]

Many moons ago I worked within a slaughterhouse (chickens) and, every Friday, a Rabbi used to come in while they did the killing for the Jewish customers.  Apparently the chickens had to be unstunned and a little prayer said over their dying bodies before it was fit for Jewish consumption.

The Rabbi "did his thing" over the first dozen or so, then got fed up and went for tea and bikkes while the run was finished the usual way.

Needless to say all the birds got their kosher certificate!!

[cem_devecioglu]

No mention of Pork!

I could well be wrong but I thought muslims ate pork. 'Tis the Jewish Community that have problems there.

nope .. they dont.. but few of them dont care

[HolyCount]

Thank you Cem. One of my mates from College was Jewish and loved pork too!

I bet many vegetarians give in to bacon too 

[aaronjb]

Thank you Cem. One of my mates from College was Jewish and loved pork too!

I bet many vegetarians give in to bacon too 

I've been to Tel Aviv a few times (amazing place, incidentally) and it always made me chuckle that the standard response to "So is this Kosher?" was "Weeeelll.. it's not technically not Kosher.. so it's fine"  (I'm guessing Orthodox Jews would take a different view, but Tel Aviv is very.. un-religious as a city)

[Varche]

I have always said and maintain that humans should only eat meat if they have actually killed that type of animal once in their life. We take far too much for granted i am afraid. Bring back home economics perhaps at school ?

Now that would soon sort out whingers and create a lot more veggies.

It won't ever happen as mosty people faint at the sight of blood. Oh and the 'elf and saftey wouldn't allow it..

[aaronjb]

I have always said and maintain that humans should only eat meat if they have actually killed that type of animal once in their life. We take far too much for granted i am afraid. Bring back home economics perhaps at school ?

Now that would soon sort out whingers and create a lot more veggies.

It won't ever happen as mosty people faint at the sight of blood. Oh and the 'elf and saftey wouldn't allow it..

Heh, you remember the news when the primary school wanted to send the lamb off for slaughter? Somehow I can't see them being allowed to have students slaughter an animal if they weren't even allowed to know that meat comes from cute fwuffy animals 

(As for the rest.. I'll continue to have someone else kill my meat for me thanks - why would I want to get my hands dirty when I can pay someone to do it for me? )

[Martin_1962]

One of the links was on about a tape recorder doing the job

[hotel21]

I have always said and maintain that humans should only eat meat if they have actually killed that type of animal once in their life..........

 

I'm afraid that one did make me laugh/wry snigger.   

In a previous lifetime, I had a fair old number of callouts to escaped animals from abatoirs including a few mature bulls of a tonne and a half or so plus, at various times.  Well placed 7.62 with a quick second to ensure deed done, then the wee 'Egor' type slaughterman did his stuff with a rather large and very sharp knife to ensure the animal was bled as quick as possible.  All done once the animals had ran out of town and onto farmers land, I hasten to add.

Meat was still scrap though as the beast was too full of adrenaline to allow the meat to be consumed by humans.

But your comment allows me the pleasure of beef steaks, pork and lamb and a few hands on rabbits, chickens etc whilst rough camping....      

[geoffr70]

I have always said and maintain that humans should only eat meat if they have actually killed that type of animal once in their life. We take far too much for granted i am afraid. Bring back home economics perhaps at school ?

Now that would soon sort out whingers and create a lot more veggies.

It won't ever happen as mosty people faint at the sight of blood. Oh and the 'elf and saftey wouldn't allow it..

I'm with you on this one Varche.

I watched the 'Kill It, Cook It, Eat It' programs. There were too many people who didn't dare have any part in the process from farm to plate, too squeamish to look, and believe it or not they were crying! They still ate the meat though! Bloody crocodile tears.

If you're not prepared to kill eat, you shouldn't eat it. Obviously practicalities get in the way, but in principle. The nation is full of softies.