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[Nickbat]

Doesn't seem right to me.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11570593

 

[Vamps]

I fear that this Government is running before it has learned to walk, worrying times.......

[24_Valve]

It's not right at all 

It's totally outrageous, they're actually wasting money imo & scrapping more than just a carrier... it's yet another significant part of our heritage down the pan 

All that said, I did vote for Mr C 

I served in the senior infantry regiment of the line (can't publish here), when I was a lad & they scrapped that too, under the guise of "amalgamation" during the '90's SDR

money, money, money... heritage/culture?  :-/

[Marks DTM Calib]

Seems sensible, we have nothing to put on it, cant afford anything to put on it and have 2 new carriers coming (which we cant afford but also cant get out of).

[tunnie]

at the end of the day we are getting two for the price of one! 

Just don't start a second war in the Falklands islands until 2019! Which is a tall order since we just found one of the biggest oil supplies just off its coast. The Argies will want a piece of that, and we have sod all to defend it with 

[Kevin Wood]

at the end of the day we are getting two for the price of one! 

Just don't start a second war in the Falklands islands until 2019! Which is a tall order since we just found one of the biggest oil supplies just off its coast. The Argies will want a piece of that, and we have sod all to defend it with 

It's OK. We've got a working Vulcan now.

I suspect we are starting to see the tip of the iceberg vis-a-vis Labour's dishing out blank cheques in their last throes of power.

25 years does seem to be a short lifespan for something as expensive as an aircraft carrier. Then again, without aircraft it's an expensive self-licking lollipop.

It's plain to see there is layer upon layer of MOD procurement / ministerial meddlers who are clearly incompetent with the nation's money. I wonder if they'll be scrapped too?

Kevin

[albitz]

at the end of the day we are getting two for the price of one! 

Just don't start a second war in the Falklands islands until 2019! Which is a tall order since we just found one of the biggest oil supplies just off its coast. The Argies will want a piece of that, and we have sod all to defend it with 

Quite a bit less than they first thought apparently, which is why Rockhopper shares rocketed to over a fiver and have now dropped back to around Ł3.50 ........maybe still enough for the Argies to think about having a go though.

[tunnie]

at the end of the day we are getting two for the price of one! 

Just don't start a second war in the Falklands islands until 2019! Which is a tall order since we just found one of the biggest oil supplies just off its coast. The Argies will want a piece of that, and we have sod all to defend it with 

Quite a bit less than they first thought apparently, which is why Rockhopper shares rocketed to over a fiver and have now dropped back to around Ł3.50 ........maybe still enough for the Argies to think about having a go though.

Thanks for correction on oil 

But i think they want it back even if there was no oil & we would not be able to mount a similar campaign to '82 if asked to now 

I guess one good thing is Trident replacement is delayed so they will stay in service, rather than for the scrapper too

[Nickbat]

Bye, bye, Fleet Air Arm as well, at least for the next 16 years. 

The move will mean an “enormous loss of influence and respect” to Britain as the Navy “is one of the few in the world that has carrier strike,” a senior Navy source said.

“This did put us in the top echelon next the US and French but it now means that even Italy and Spain will have a great capability than the Royal Navy.

Tossers. They need to get rid of the stupid pen-pushers at the MoD, not our defensive capabilities. I used to be proud of our Armed Services. Soon, there will be nothing left of which to be proud.
 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/defence/8071295/Navy-aircraft-carriers-not-operational-for-26-years.html

[Banjax]

sad passing, but maybe we should be looking at a United European armed force and share the costs.

Just don't let the Germans take the reigns.......obviously 


and I can't believe the Harrier's getting pulled  - the Yanks love 'em 

[Nickbat]

sad passing, but maybe we should be looking at a United European armed force and share the costs.

Just don't let the Germans take the reigns.......obviously 

Ugh!
 

[Dishevelled Den]

at the end of the day we are getting two for the price of one! 

Just don't start a second war in the Falklands islands until 2019! Which is a tall order since we just found one of the biggest oil supplies just off its coast. The Argies will want a piece of that, and we have sod all to defend it with 

It's OK. We've got a working Vulcan now.

I suspect we are starting to see the tip of the iceberg vis-a-vis Labour's dishing out blank cheques in their last throes of power.

25 years does seem to be a short lifespan for something as expensive as an aircraft carrier. Then again, without aircraft it's an expensive self-licking lollipop.

It's plain to see there is layer upon layer of MOD procurement / ministerial meddlers who are clearly incompetent with the nation's money. I wonder if they'll be scrapped too?

Kevin

It's plain to see there is layer upon layer of MOD procurement / ministerial meddlers who are clearly incompetent with the nation's money. I wonder if they'll be scrapped too?

Yep, you've skelped the arse of that one K. 8-)

Someone was there before you however (excerpt);

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v4qUqxmLS4&feature=related[/media]

[Banjax]

sad passing, but maybe we should be looking at a United European armed force and share the costs.

Just don't let the Germans take the reigns.......obviously 

Ugh!
 

not a fan of the idea then, Nick?   

[Varche]

I watched the BBc news this morning with a mixture of anger, wonderment and surprise.

I have always been saying that it is high time we got off our high perch of Britain being a superpower. We aren't we are just a little (poorish) country. So we can join in NATO or the EU for our contribution towards a genuine "war" type conflict. The days of us rushing off to war at the drop of a hat are gone.

Where is the redindancy money going to come from for all the armed forces personnel that are thrown out of work and also the associated jobs also lost? Where are those folk going to find work when they are competing with the people who lose their jobs tomorrow?

My anger comes from the unmonitored and un punished profligate waste that the faceless mandarins (not government)  have been engaged in in spending our money(billions) on various unsustainable and now unwanted projects. Will any be sacked. Of course not , they never are.

What we should really be concentrating on is terrorism that is the new warfare.   

[Dishevelled Den]

I watched the BBc news this morning with a mixture of anger, wonderment and surprise.

I have always been saying that it is high time we got off our high perch of Britain being a superpower. We aren't we are just a little (poorish) country. So we can join in NATO or the EU for our contribution towards a genuine "war" type conflict. The days of us rushing off to war at the drop of a hat are gone.

Where is the redindancy money going to come from for all the armed forces personnel that are thrown out of work and also the associated jobs also lost? Where are those folk going to find work when they are competing with the people who lose their jobs tomorrow?

My anger comes from the unmonitored and un punished profligate waste that the faceless mandarins (not government)  have been engaged in in spending our money(billions) on various unsustainable and now unwanted projects. Will any be sacked. Of course not , they never are.

What we should really be concentrating on is terrorism that is the new warfare.   

I have always been saying that it is high time we got off our high perch of Britain being a superpower. We aren't we are just a little (poorish) country. So we can join in NATO /........./  for our contribution towards a genuine "war" type conflict. The days of us rushing off to war at the drop of a hat are gone.

I'm afraid that I'm minded to agree with that.

Where is the redindancy money going to come

Where indeed?

What we should really be concentrating on is terrorism

Some regional conflicts/simmering conflicts pose a greater threat at the moment, although terrorism should not be discounted.