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[Turk]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1329538/Police-told-send-text-messages-expensive-speak-radios.html

[Mr Skrunts]

and thats because they all now have mobile phones and were probably given them free as part of a deal where they were paid for during thier useage. :-/

[Omega_Dan]

Its all well and good but the amount of times over the years i have missed or havent received a text off someone for whatever reason is many. I think it will create a breakdown of communication myself.

[cem_devecioglu]

privatization.. 

finally they tied the hands of police..

[Mr Skrunts]

Its all well and good but the amount of times over the years i have missed or havent received a text off someone for whatever reason is many. I think it will create a breakdown of communication myself.

You can imagine the scene.

"chsn s/pct dwn infry rd,"
"R R R on to grn ln"
L L L o2 stel st"
"R R R o2 A1"
"s/pct doin 120 and hiting evry ting in is wy"
"OH SHIT POLAK!

[The Red Baron]

Its all well and good but the amount of times over the years i have missed or havent received a text off someone for whatever reason is many. I think it will create a breakdown of communication myself.

You can imagine the scene.

"chsn s/pct dwn infry rd,"
"R R R on to grn ln"
L L L o2 stel st"
"R R R o2 A1"
"s/pct doin 120 and hiting evry ting in is wy"
"OH SHIT POLAK!

very good.

[Omega_Dan]

Its all well and good but the amount of times over the years i have missed or havent received a text off someone for whatever reason is many. I think it will create a breakdown of communication myself.

You can imagine the scene.

"chsn s/pct dwn infry rd,"
"R R R on to grn ln"
L L L o2 stel st"
"R R R o2 A1"
"s/pct doin 120 and hiting evry ting in is wy"
"OH SHIT POLAK!

very good.

followed by -  y aint u txt me bck?

[Mr Skrunts]

Its all well and good but the amount of times over the years i have missed or havent received a text off someone for whatever reason is many. I think it will create a breakdown of communication myself.

You can imagine the scene.

"chsn s/pct dwn infry rd,"
"R R R on to grn ln"
L L L o2 stel st"
"R R R o2 A1"
"s/pct doin 120 and hiting evry ting in is wy"
"OH SHIT POLAK!

very good.

followed by -  y aint u txt me bck?

Or the cheif constable in the control room "What did he say"

[geoffr70]

I think it's something to do with the new airwave system (radio and comms). the army had it about 7 years ago, fire brigade got it a few years back.

The idea is every emergency service can communicate across the country. There are talk groups set up for police, ambulance, fire, coast guard, everything, that is why all callsigns have changed to become nationally unique so there aren't two the same.

Airwave bills the user for every messasge received! I know i know it's bloody stupid! The cost to the public must be immense. At work, when the trucks aren't out we have to turn the radios on to standby mode so they don't receive messages and get charged for them! Silly public sector procurement!

The radios are like mobile phones in that you can send a text. the good(or bad) thing about this is, the sender (boss) can see if the receiver(worker) has received the message or not.

Sending these 'texts' is cheaper than sending a message over the talkgroup as only one specified receiver would receive it, not everyone on the entire talk group, therefore there is only one charge, not hundreds for example.

As airwave is digital and alot more secure it's so much better in these times of increased threat.

I can't remember exactly how it works, but it's something to do with packets. The broadcasts can get broken down into smaller portions, somehow that means, more info can be sent on less!

[Debs.]

"U R bangd 2 ritez"

"hoo U thnk U R, strlng mos?"

"hez gowink 4 D-cmp"

 

[CaptainZok]

Lo lo lo wts al ths thn?
Evni al.
 

[Lizzie_Zoom]

This is what this policy can lead to:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2635499/999-call-answered-with-police-text-saying-solve-it-yourself.html

 

[zirk]

The report is misleading, their not being asked to send a text as such (SMS), their being asked to make more use of the SDM service (Short Data Message) in order to cut down on voice traffic.

The National Airwave Service is a Digital Tetra Radio Network allowing PTT radio calls as well Group and PSTN calls and short or long Data messages.

The SDM is a pre determined text message normally 1 to 16, ie, 1, will attend, 2, going to lunch, 3, back on duty etc, which gets flagged up as the original message in the Control Room, meaning simple every day messages can be sent with out setting up voice call traffic.

Each Airwave handset will be on a fixed monthly tariff to include voice calls with some sort of fair use policy attached to it, the SDM side of it will be extremely cheap if not free, so its obviously been monitored and found that everyone is yacking too much and not using the data side enough. The fair use policy would be there not so much as a money spinner but as a Network performance issue making sure that the radio channels are available for real emergencies.

Chris.

[albitz]

Sounds like they need to bring in some top flight procurement managers from the private sector. When Sainsburys etc. buy large amounts of a product from a supplier, they will constantly turn the screws on them to keep the price down. I suspect that there isnt enough of this happening in the public sector.
Could be the old backhanders/ jobs for the boys scenario is still alive and well.

[Chris_H]

Sounds like they need to bring in some top flight procurement managers from the private sector. When Sainsburys etc. buy large amounts of a product from a supplier, they will constantly turn the screws on them to keep the price down. I suspect that there isnt enough of this happening in the public sector.
Could be the old backhanders/ jobs for the boys scenario is still alive and well.

I don't think you can compare Airwave procurement to a Sainsburys deal Albs.  I know JS ask a lot of their suppliers but they don't usually define the product (quite  ) and take extraordinary steps to prevent anyone else getting or copying the product.  If you get my drift.