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[tunnie]

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[PhilRich]

Although I would happily own a monaro, I would never consider a 2 door in a million years. In order to allow access to the rear the doors have to be considerably longer than on a 4 door. Meaning getting in and out of the front is a nightmare in any car park as the doors can't open fully. ESP in uk car parks where the spaces are so ludicrously small.

Passengers struggle to get in and out and the front seats have to be empty to allow them to do so. 2 doors are nightmare, I fail to see the advantage?not to mention dinging the edge of your own doors and battering everyone elses in range,  I hate the bloody thing personally.

Although I mite well suffer all that in a Monaro. But if spending that sort of cash I'd go for the vxr8 aaaall daaaaaay loooooong

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I don't think much of your Geordie accent Chris!

[feeutfo]

Although I would happily own a monaro, I would never consider a 2 door in a million years. In order to allow access to the rear the doors have to be considerably longer than on a 4 door. Meaning getting in and out of the front is a nightmare in any car park as the doors can't open fully. ESP in uk car parks where the spaces are so ludicrously small.

Passengers struggle to get in and out and the front seats have to be empty to allow them to do so. 2 doors are nightmare, I fail to see the advantage?not to mention dinging the edge of your own doors and battering everyone elses in range,  I hate the bloody thing personally.

Although I mite well suffer all that in a Monaro. But if spending that sort of cash I'd go for the vxr8 aaaall daaaaaay loooooong

Lay off the mince pies then   

I would have no such troubles 

Aye? Your taller than me, streaky wee! Hold an omega door in on its inboard first nick in the check strap then try and get in and out.

[tunnie]

Although I would happily own a monaro, I would never consider a 2 door in a million years. In order to allow access to the rear the doors have to be considerably longer than on a 4 door. Meaning getting in and out of the front is a nightmare in any car park as the doors can't open fully. ESP in uk car parks where the spaces are so ludicrously small.

Passengers struggle to get in and out and the front seats have to be empty to allow them to do so. 2 doors are nightmare, I fail to see the advantage?not to mention dinging the edge of your own doors and battering everyone elses in range,  I hate the bloody thing personally.

Although I mite well suffer all that in a Monaro. But if spending that sort of cash I'd go for the vxr8 aaaall daaaaaay loooooong

Lay off the mince pies then   

I would have no such troubles 

Aye? Your taller than me, streaky wee! Hold an omega door in on its inboard first nick in the check strap then try and get in and out.

I've done it before it even hits first check strap, our garage was not designed for an Omega!

[feeutfo]

Although I would happily own a monaro, I would never consider a 2 door in a million years. In order to allow access to the rear the doors have to be considerably longer than on a 4 door. Meaning getting in and out of the front is a nightmare in any car park as the doors can't open fully. ESP in uk car parks where the spaces are so ludicrously small.

Passengers struggle to get in and out and the front seats have to be empty to allow them to do so. 2 doors are nightmare, I fail to see the advantage?not to mention dinging the edge of your own doors and battering everyone elses in range,  I hate the bloody thing personally.

Although I mite well suffer all that in a Monaro. But if spending that sort of cash I'd go for the vxr8 aaaall daaaaaay loooooong

Lay off the mince pies then   

I would have no such troubles 

Aye? Your taller than me, streaky wee! Hold an omega door in on its inboard first nick in the check strap then try and get in and out.

I've done it before it even hits first check strap, our garage was not designed for an Omega!

It's possible, but rather awkward. I have to get me heals in first, if you see what I mean....and when me backs playing up....ooh.

Colour screen in the link, is that oe?

[Ian_D]

There used to be a supercharged one that flew past on the main road next to our housing estate every few days... Sounded fit as hell!

Always wondered if it was a VXR8, until the day I happended to hear it, then a couple of seconds see it comming towards me when I was in the Mig. 

It was the Supercharged Wortec VXR8 Carbon Edition. 

[feeutfo]

Mmmmnot sure about the orange... Oh who am I kiddin, GIME IT! 

[Shackeng]

A mate used to have a black manual MV6, we had the only two in Ming Mong (Immingham). He had his 7 or 8 years & loved it. (Well why would'nt he?) It's still going strong in the Notts. area on an R plate, think the last two letters are VT. Anyway obviously being a man of taste he's replaced the MV6 with a new black VXR8...& why not? I was on the M180 heading into Grimsby following some nondescript car bored @ 80 ish when something flew up behind me & braked hard, i saw the HSV plate & pulled over to let him through then tucked in behind. Over the roundabout onto an urban 50mph limit dual carriageway with another roundabout at the end. I hit 115 & he was away, god knows how fast he was going before i caught him up @ the roundabout. The sound of the thing was jaw dropping. We've all seen them on telly etc but the presence they have up close is incredible.
    Still be the Monaro for me in a few years time as they're 2 door. ALL cars look better with 2 doors!!! 8-)

But are a pain with young kids and aged elders to get into it! 8-) 8-) 8-)

[Amigo]

No longer being a family man with litt'luns, i can indulge my preference for 2 doors. I do have room in the workshop but the Cortina lives in there anyway. Regarding the car park issue i always parks as far away from the store as i can & walk. Migs are too big for the average space so it's asking for trouble. Does'nt do able bodied folk or kids any harm to walk a few yards.
    Danny, again as Zulu you make a fair point but it was hardly needed as i'd already accepted my wrongdoing. Not sure how you knew it weas the "last" VXR8 that killed the polo driver & it could be an Omega or any other car. Of course i've no wish to kill or hurt anyone & understand the risks but more accidents happen at lower speeds due to folk playing with satnavs, music, telling kids off etc. Granted lower speeds equal lighter impacts but you can kill  someone @ 30, 40, 50mph & ther's a higher overall chance of this happening. It's usually driver error not speed that kills. At these speeds you tend to pay much more attention as you're less complacent than dawdling along looking for speed cameras. Which BTW is what i spend 99% of my driving time  in truck or car doing. Guy.

[feeutfo]

Might get slightly less righteous replies in general car chat perhaps. I bet if others are honest and equally black and white, they may find they are habitual speeders also. Hmm  :-?

[tunnie]

Speed does not kill.

I can get in a plane and be quite safe doing 500mph...

German autobahns prove high speed motorways can be safe, yet you can kill someone doing 35mph.

What does kill is inappropriate speed, just fact someone said they did 110mph, people should not jump on the 'speed' wagon.

110mph down a German Autobahn? I'd say that was quite safe. 110mph down road to AppleCross? Thats a different story!

[Dishevelled Den]

Might get slightly less righteous replies in general car chat perhaps. I bet if others are honest and equally black and white, they may find they are habitual speeders also. Hmm  :-?

I thought I made a fair point Chris which Guy accepted - there is no way on this earth that driving at such a speed (115 mph) is safe on public roads.

Having a class 1 police driving certificate (as it was) I have driven at excess speed on many occasions in the course of duty, although I was never comfortable doing so - I knew my limitations but most other drivers were, for the most part, ignorant of their own.

When I worked in uniform I dealt with a fair few collisions (not all down to excess speed) involving death.  It was part of my duty so it had to be done; the most difficult part however was either breaking the news to the victim’s relatives or witnessing their abject grief when they had to make a formal identification of their son, daughter and so on in the mortuary.

Since that time I've had a healthy respect for speed and the unpredictability of other drivers and although I don't have to drive in those circumstances any longer, the many sad cases I dealt with during those early years remain at the back of my mind on each and every occasion I drive any motor vehicle.

When speed increases the chances of avoiding danger begin to decrease dramatically.  Danger can come from many directions - from the dozy git bumbling along doing everything but actually driving their car, a fault developing in the vehicle being driven or bad road surface and so on.

These are difficult to deal with at the best of times but to try and do so on public roads when at speed isn't sensible in my view.

The difficulty with owning or being in control of such powerful vehicles is that one is tempted to use the speed available either deliberately or being caught up in the moment as Guy was. 

That's when things can go wrong - and when they do - the results are generally amplified as they occur on roads that are simply unsuitable for high speed use.

Speed as of itself doesn’t necessarily kill – the inappropriate use of it certainly does and, given the physical state of our roads, the generally poor standard of driving and the sheer volume of traffic we encounter on a daily basis, speeding on public roads is quite simply an accident waiting to happen.

In so far as my own inclinations are concerned, I don't exceed the posted limit as (for me) it's easier not to.

[Amigo]

Might get slightly less righteous replies in general car chat perhaps. I bet if others are honest and equally black and white, they may find they are habitual speeders also. Hmm  :-?

I thought I made a fair point Chris which Guy accepted - there is no way on this earth that driving at such a speed (115 mph) is safe on public roads.

Having a class 1 police driving certificate (as it was) I have driven at excess speed on many occasions in the course of duty, although I was never comfortable doing so - I knew my limitations but most other drivers were, for the most part, ignorant of their own.

When I worked in uniform I dealt with a fair few collisions (not all down to excess speed) involving death.  It was part of my duty so it had to be done; the most difficult part however was either breaking the news to the victim’s relatives or witnessing their abject grief when they had to make a formal identification of their son, daughter and so on in the mortuary.

Since that time I've had a healthy respect for speed and the unpredictability of other drivers and although I don't have to drive in those circumstances any longer, the many sad cases I dealt with during those early years remain at the back of my mind on each and every occasion I drive any motor vehicle.

When speed increases the chances of avoiding danger begin to decrease dramatically.  Danger can come from many directions - from the dozy git bumbling along doing everything but actually driving their car, a fault developing in the vehicle being driven or bad road surface and so on.

These are difficult to deal with at the best of times but to try and do so on public roads when at speed isn't sensible in my view.

The difficulty with owning or being in control of such powerful vehicles is that one is tempted to use the speed available either deliberately or being caught up in the moment as Guy was. 

That's when things can go wrong - and when they do - the results are generally amplified as they occur on roads that are simply unsuitable for high speed use.

Speed as of itself doesn’t necessarily kill – the inappropriate use of it certainly does and, given the physical state of our roads, the generally poor standard of driving and the sheer volume of traffic we encounter on a daily basis, speeding on public roads is quite simply an accident waiting to happen.

In so far as my own inclinations are concerned, I don't exceed the posted limit as (for me) it's easier not to.

I wish i could argue this but i can't as your'e quite right in everything you say. I've spent nearly 30 years driving for a living & seen some terrifying sights/injuries etc. I've hurt myself & had to be cut out but never hurt anyone else. I do however accept this has beem more down to luck than judgement & there have been one or two VERY near misses. Just being able to drive a vehicle safely at speed can never allow for others actions on the public highway & our reactions to such. In some ways i regret my initial post as if you really knew me you'd be happy for me to take your Mum/Granny shopping or to church etc.
   

[Dishevelled Den]

I wish i could argue this but i can't as your'e quite right in everything you say. I've spent nearly 30 years driving for a living & seen some terrifying sights/injuries etc. I've hurt myself & had to be cut out but never hurt anyone else. I do however accept this has beem more down to luck than judgement & there have been one or two VERY near misses. Just being able to drive a vehicle safely at speed can never allow for others actions on the public highway & our reactions to such. In some ways i regret my initial post as if you really knew me you'd be happy for me to take your Mum/Granny shopping or to church etc.
   

I thought that to be a well considered reply Guy 8-)

I wasn't having a dig at you specifically as I know how easy it is to get caught up on the spur of the moment.

As you rightly say irrespective of any driver’s personal skill it's always the other driver who you really have to look out for.

[feeutfo]

Might get slightly less righteous replies in general car chat perhaps. I bet if others are honest and equally black and white, they may find they are habitual speeders also. Hmm  :-?

I thought I made a fair point Chris which Guy accepted - there is no way on this earth that driving at such a speed (115 mph) is safe on public roads.

Having a class 1 police driving certificate (as it was) I have driven at excess speed on many occasions in the course of duty, although I was never comfortable doing so - I knew my limitations but most other drivers were, for the most part, ignorant of their own.

When I worked in uniform I dealt with a fair few collisions (not all down to excess speed) involving death.  It was part of my duty so it had to be done; the most difficult part however was either breaking the news to the victim’s relatives or witnessing their abject grief when they had to make a formal identification of their son, daughter and so on in the mortuary.

Since that time I've had a healthy respect for speed and the unpredictability of other drivers and although I don't have to drive in those circumstances any longer, the many sad cases I dealt with during those early years remain at the back of my mind on each and every occasion I drive any motor vehicle.

When speed increases the chances of avoiding danger begin to decrease dramatically.  Danger can come from many directions - from the dozy git bumbling along doing everything but actually driving their car, a fault developing in the vehicle being driven or bad road surface and so on.

These are difficult to deal with at the best of times but to try and do so on public roads when at speed isn't sensible in my view.

The difficulty with owning or being in control of such powerful vehicles is that one is tempted to use the speed available either deliberately or being caught up in the moment as Guy was. 

That's when things can go wrong - and when they do - the results are generally amplified as they occur on roads that are simply unsuitable for high speed use.

Speed as of itself doesn’t necessarily kill – the inappropriate use of it certainly does and, given the physical state of our roads, the generally poor standard of driving and the sheer volume of traffic we encounter on a daily basis, speeding on public roads is quite simply an accident waiting to happen.

In so far as my own inclinations are concerned, I don't exceed the posted limit as (for me) it's easier not to.

I'll not go into that, my point is that its not necessary to take a superior stance in the first place. You'll have to accept I find the high hoarse attitude on here most distaistfull at times. Do you think we're not aware of every word you 've said?

You 've missed the point of guys post entirely and taken a passionate post about an awesome car in the opposite direction. Your entitled to your opinion of course, and yes we all know your right, now can we talk about the vxr8 please.