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Re: Botched environmental forecasts
« Reply #15 on: 31 December 2010, 13:41:33 »

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here Nickbat, have some light Hogmanay reading - each of the 137 most used arguments by climate change sceptics....and why they are tripe - purely in the interests of being "fair and balanced" you understand, as I can't recall you ever mentioning something which didn't fit your argument - see if these plug the gap.

http://www.skepticalscience.com/argument.php

 :y :y ;D


It makes for a good laugh with its twisted statements.

I haven't the time or inclination to go through them all, but #53 caught my eye: "Thick Arctic ice is in rapid retreat". It caught my eye particularly as I had just read this:

"Area Of Thick Arctic Ice Has Doubled In The Last Two Years - US Navy PIPS data"

http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2010/12/31/area-of-thick-arctic-ice-has-doubled-in-the-last-two-years/

Incidentally, the link you provided is to a website set  up recently by the leading warmist activists who are rightly fearful that their house of cards is about to collapse.   ;) ;D

you're making a mistake common to a lot of deniers Nickbat, looking at individual years instead of the overall trend - its why you hear people scoff at global warming because its cold where they live - as usual the most blinkered and belligerent are the more interesting story - its far better if its a hoax than if its true, it has more traction, especially with the swivel-eyed. unfortunately for the debate its become a freedom from taxes issue and purloined by the powerful right wing lobbies especially in the states where they fear "the state" more than anyone.

you make a few interesting points, if i may quote you

"It makes for a good laugh with its twisted statements.

I haven't the time or inclination to go through them all
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well thats it in a nutshell isnt it - you're utterly typical of the sceptics in that you dont read anything other than what confirms your viewpoint, i on the other hand read widely....and come to a conclusion about the shouty ones on both sides and the cold hard facts in the middle - you seem to wish to close your eyes and put your fingers in your ears. I've still never read a scientist denying AGW who isn't being paid by an interested party when you scratch the surface.

Its a bee in your bonnet Nickbat, its not in mine - whether you accept whats happening or dont either way you will do little to effect the situation, neither by the way, will I  :y

I hope you're right Nickbat, I don't think you are tho  :(
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Re: Botched environmental forecasts
« Reply #16 on: 31 December 2010, 13:58:52 »

BJ, just a few chosen nouns and adjectives from your post:

Denier
Blinkered
Belligerent
utterly typical
swivel-eyed
powerful right wing lobbies

terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired. Try scientific arguments instead of slurs.


"you dont read anything other than what confirms your viewpoint"

How do you know what I read?  ::) ::) ::)
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Re: Botched environmental forecasts
« Reply #17 on: 31 December 2010, 14:38:24 »

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BJ, just a few chosen nouns and adjectives from your post:

Denier
Blinkered
Belligerent
utterly typical
swivel-eyed
powerful right wing lobbies

terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired. Try scientific arguments instead of slurs.


"you dont read anything other than what confirms your viewpoint"

How do you know what I read?  ::) ::) ::)

because you pretty much link everything?  :o ;D


"terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired. Try scientific arguments instead of slurs."

indeed.
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Re: Botched environmental forecasts
« Reply #18 on: 31 December 2010, 15:20:36 »

Nothing is black or white, there is a lot of grey in the middle, and as far as I am aware no-one knows a great deal in this world.  We have it all to learn, especially when it comes to the environment. ::) ::) ::) 
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« Reply #19 on: 31 December 2010, 16:36:22 »

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Nothing is black or white, there is a lot of grey in the middle, and as far as I am aware no-one knows a great deal in this world.  We have it all to learn, especially when it comes to the environment. ::) ::) ::) 

now them's wise words Liz, who was it said "no one knows anything" i feel he was right and everyone else by definition is wrong  :y
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