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[Elite Pete]

If he's a good boy he'll be out in just over a year. I think he should do longer

[Chris_H]

If he's a good boy he'll be out in just over a year. I think he should do longer

He will almost certainly be out early IMHO but he will have a record that will plague him for the rest of his life.  That will count for a lot.

As for comparing his actions to exceeding speed limits...  the probability of him killing someone was very high; possibly higher than if he'd discharged a shotgun at that range.  Exceeding speed limits (and I'm not condoning that) generally has a far lower likelihood of injury, let alone death.

I think in the circumstances the punishment was about right.

[Dishevelled Den]

It's about the average for convictions of Violent Disorder (Public Order Act 1986) according to some of the recent case law (sentencing) I've been looking at.

Having been on the receiving end of the odd extinguisher, washing machine, refrigerator, CRT television and so on - dropped from height - I can say, quite reasonably in my view, that anyone deciding to employ these tactics has but one intention - to injure, intimidate or kill.

Otherwise why do it in the first place?

[Lazydocker]

If he's a good boy he'll be out in just over a year. I think he should do longer

He will almost certainly be out early IMHO but he will have a record that will plague him for the rest of his life.  That will count for a lot.

As for comparing his actions to exceeding speed limits...  the probability of him killing someone was very high; possibly higher than if he'd discharged a shotgun at that range.  Exceeding speed limits (and I'm not condoning that) generally has a far lower likelihood of injury, let alone death.

I think in the circumstances the punishment was about right.

Unfortunately not... Under the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act it will be "Spent" after the set period. I don't know what it is but probably around 9 years at the most.

It will, however, make him (and hopefully his peers) think more about their actions

Was it too much... Not in my opinion.

Was he made an example of... Probably Just hope it works!

Let's put this in perspective... They are raising the maximum permitted fees to £9k per Annum... Once he joins the real world with a job, house, vehicle etc he'll meet tax increases all the time Is he/are they going to riot every time there's an increase? University used to be for the gifted person to gain better qualifications (Doctor/Lawyer/Accountant etc), nowadays you can go and study Klingon FFS

[Chris_H]

If he's a good boy he'll be out in just over a year. I think he should do longer

He will almost certainly be out early IMHO but he will have a record that will plague him for the rest of his life.  That will count for a lot.

As for comparing his actions to exceeding speed limits...  the probability of him killing someone was very high; possibly higher than if he'd discharged a shotgun at that range.  Exceeding speed limits (and I'm not condoning that) generally has a far lower likelihood of injury, let alone death.

I think in the circumstances the punishment was about right.

Unfortunately not... Under the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act it will be "Spent" after the set period. I don't know what it is but probably around 9 years at the most.

It will, however, make him (and hopefully his peers) think more about their actions

Was it too much... Not in my opinion.

Was he made an example of... Probably Just hope it works!

Let's put this in perspective... They are raising the maximum permitted fees to £9k per Annum... Once he joins the real world with a job, house, vehicle etc he'll meet tax increases all the time Is he/are they going to riot every time there's an increase? University used to be for the gifted person to gain better qualifications (Doctor/Lawyer/Accountant etc), nowadays you can go and study Klingon FFS

...and you can study from inside a prison!!!!  He may yet get his fees paid!

[Lazydocker]

If he's a good boy he'll be out in just over a year. I think he should do longer

He will almost certainly be out early IMHO but he will have a record that will plague him for the rest of his life.  That will count for a lot.

As for comparing his actions to exceeding speed limits...  the probability of him killing someone was very high; possibly higher than if he'd discharged a shotgun at that range.  Exceeding speed limits (and I'm not condoning that) generally has a far lower likelihood of injury, let alone death.

I think in the circumstances the punishment was about right.

Unfortunately not... Under the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act it will be "Spent" after the set period. I don't know what it is but probably around 9 years at the most.

It will, however, make him (and hopefully his peers) think more about their actions

Was it too much... Not in my opinion.

Was he made an example of... Probably Just hope it works!

Let's put this in perspective... They are raising the maximum permitted fees to £9k per Annum... Once he joins the real world with a job, house, vehicle etc he'll meet tax increases all the time Is he/are they going to riot every time there's an increase? University used to be for the gifted person to gain better qualifications (Doctor/Lawyer/Accountant etc), nowadays you can go and study Klingon FFS

...and you can study from inside a prison!!!!  He may yet get his fees paid!

Indeed... But that's a whole different discussion

[Gaffers]

should have got longer  set a propper example  with any luck he will be locked up with the meanest poof on the wing

You said what I was thinking!!

i had a job of finding a diplomatic way of saying it   i would of got banned for what i was going to put

Yep, I guess he'll be able to do a new trick with a fire extinguisher by the time he gets out.

A bit of 'Now you see it, now you dont, sir?'   

[Gaffers]

The irony is that he'll get a free degree inside

[redelitev6]

99 times out of a 100 that fire extinguisher would have hit somebody,when you see how many hundreds of people were at that scene it was a miracle he wasn't looking at a murder charge.