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[Nickbat]

I've just read this report from an Arctic expedition:

"The Arctic seems to be warming up. Reports from fishermen, seal hunters, and explorers who sail the seas about Spitsbergen and the eastern Arctic, all point to a radical change in climatic conditions, and hitherto unheard-of high temperatures in that part of the earth's surface...

...Where formerly great masses of ice were found there are now often moraines, accumulations of earth and stones. At many points where glaciers formerly extended far into the sea they have entirely disappeared."

Will I need to grovel now before BJ, LZ Opti et al who have consistently said that the ice loss in the Arctic is unprecedented and proof of man-made global warming over the last 30 years? 

[Lizzie_Zoom]

If you are starting to recognise the continually growing evidence that the climate is changing rapidly, with warming is one factor Nick, then I'm happy with that!

[HolyCount]

I don't know, Nick.  I don't disagree that there is evidence of climate change  I don't believe that it is, however, the result of man made global warming.

It has happened before and will happen again.

Was the Ice Age the result of the dinosaurs driving too many cars

It could be a natural cycle and we should be concentrating our efforts into devising ways to live with it rather than ways to stop or slow it.

[PhilRich]

No Nick, stick to your guns it's all a load of rowlocks! The earth has been warming & cooling over millenia & man's puny efforts at changing the climate show just how inflated the ego of the Human Race is! 

[tidla]

I don't know, Nick.  I don't disagree that there is evidence of climate change  I don't believe that it is, however, the result of man made global warming.

It has happened before and will happen again.

Was the Ice Age the result of the dinosaurs driving too many cars

It could be a natural cycle and we should be concentrating our efforts into devising ways to live with it rather than ways to stop or slow it.

i agree. will we all fit in guffers boat?

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I've just read this report from an Arctic expedition:

"The Arctic seems to be warming up. Reports from fishermen, seal hunters, and explorers who sail the seas about Spitsbergen and the eastern Arctic, all point to a radical change in climatic conditions, and hitherto unheard-of high temperatures in that part of the earth's surface...

...Where formerly great masses of ice were found there are now often moraines, accumulations of earth and stones. At many points where glaciers formerly extended far into the sea they have entirely disappeared."

Will I need to grovel now before BJ, LZ Opti et al who have consistently said that the ice loss in the Arctic is unprecedented and proof of man-made global warming over the last 30 years? 

I'm waiting for the punchline...Nick will never admit to being wrong.....

[jerry]

why is everyone so worried? Im sure I read somewhere that weve only a year to go and it all comes to an end in 2012 anyway

[Nickbat]

Phew! That was close shave! I didn't look closely enough.

The report was dated [size=18]1922[/size]! 

http://docs.lib.noaa.gov/rescue/mwr/050/mwr-050-11-0589a.pdf

[markfree]

Sorry nickbat but you wouldn't be able to eat humble-pie..........................you'd choke on it.

[Nickbat]

Sorry nickbat but you wouldn't be able to eat humble-pie..........................you'd choke on it.

Doubt if I'll need to. 

[Nickbat]

I know it's a bit of a bu**er to the leftie warmists on here, but the global temperature at the end of Jan 2011 was the same as it was 30 years ago. Worse, it's headed South rather rapidly.

That global warming seemed such a neat theory, too. Shame.

[cem_devecioglu]

Nickbat, as far as I see you start unusual ways I start to think you are desperate

[albitz]

I know it's a bit of a bu**er to the leftie warmists on here, but the global temperature at the end of Jan 2011 was the same as it was 30 years ago. Worse, it's headed South rather rapidly.That global warming seemed such a neat theory, too. Shame.

Got any links to that info Nick ? I am currently in discussion with a couple of mates who think my assertions on this subject, render me close to certifiable.

[Nickbat]

I know it's a bit of a bu**er to the leftie warmists on here, but the global temperature at the end of Jan 2011 was the same as it was 30 years ago. Worse, it's headed South rather rapidly.That global warming seemed such a neat theory, too. Shame.

Got any links to that info Nick ? I am currently in discussion with a couple of mates who think my assertions on this subject, render me close to certifiable.

But, of course, Albs.

http://www.heliogenic.net/2011/02/03/earth-the-same-temperature-now-as-30-years-ago-and-decreasing/

[albitz]

Cheers.