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[skinwiz]

No Nick, stick to your guns it's all a load of rowlocks! The earth has been warming & cooling over millenia & man's puny efforts at changing the climate show just how inflated the ego of the Human Race is! 

amen to that !!!!

[Nickbat]

I instead take the long term view of an historian, and that shows that ever increasing trend that the climate is changing, yes again as it has before, but never before suddenly become more rapid with a series of abnormal events around the world.

Of course, I am probably not worthy to doubt the word of an historian.

Perhaps you could do this mere mortal the pleasure of supplying me with factual data to back up your assertion that recent weather is, in any way, "abnormal" within the context of planet earth's history.

Many thanks in advance.   

[Lizzie_Zoom]

I instead take the long term view of an historian, and that shows that ever increasing trend that the climate is changing, yes again as it has before, but never before suddenly become more rapid with a series of abnormal events around the world.

Of course, I am probably not worthy to doubt the word of an historian.

Perhaps you could do this mere mortal the pleasure of supplying me with factual data to back up your assertion that recent weather is, in any way, "abnormal" within the context of planet earth's history.

Many thanks in advance.   

Do you know Nick I am just too tired of repeating myself and reading these repetitive threads over what seems like years to care anymore !!

You are of course right and everyone else is wrong   So why am I wasting my time discussing this endless and pointless point on a car forum? 

Whatever! It is far easier to just say that and move on! 

[Entwood]

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1296953686

[Lizzie_Zoom]

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1296953686

Indeed Entwood, this is one reason why the OOF has changed!

I know I am guilty of being too serious at times on historical matters, but this thread and its repetitive ilk is getting me down!!

Back to lighter issues me thinks!

[Nickbat]

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1296953686

Your point being?

[hotel21]

Is it just me or are repeat visits to global warming, for and against, getting just a tad repetitive?

At least the general membership can simply ignore the thread (with a wee hint from the header) but the admin team read all this - just to make sure that there is no name calling, race related, ageist, religious, colour or whatever issues.......................

Ho Hum....

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Is it just me or are repeat visits to global warming, for and against, getting just a tad repetitive?

At least the general membership can simply ignore the thread (with a wee hint from the header) but the admin team read all this - just to make sure that there is no name calling, race related, ageist, religious, colour or whatever issues.......................

Ho Hum....

No, you are absolutely right as usual Ht!!

I for one now promise never to post again on one of these 'Climate Change' threads!

[Lazydocker]

Is it just me or are repeat visits to global warming, for and against, getting just a tad repetitive?

At least the general membership can simply ignore the thread (with a wee hint from the header) but the admin team read all this - just to make sure that there is no name calling, race related, ageist, religious, colour or whatever issues.......................

Ho Hum....

Not just you... Think that was Entwood's point TBH.

Must admit, I generally ignore them now

[Nickbat]

Funny that I ask LZ to supply a link or factual information to back up the assertions she's made and all I get is the "I'm bored of all this" response.

I challenged Opti the other day for a link or factual data to back up his claims about false statistics contained in the Horizon programme and I'm still waiting.

Why should I now be subjected to dismissive comments such as "You are right and everyone else is wrong"? Why should the thread be given the sad smiley as "proof" that discussion area has changed for the worse. I put climate in the title thread. If you don't want to read it, then don't.
      

[hotel21]

Funny that I ask LZ to supply a link or factual information to back up the assertions she's made and all I get is the "I'm bored of all this" response.

I challenged Opti the other day for a link or factual data to back up his claims about false statistics contained in the Horizon programme and I'm still waiting.

Why should I now be subjected to dismissive comments such as "You are right and everyone else is wrong"? Why should the thread be given the sad smiley as "proof" that discussion area has changed for the worse. I put climate in the title thread. If you don't want to read it, then don't.
      

That is precisely my point.

The admin team DO read these posts, whether they interest them or not, for precisely the reasons I quoted in my post a couple up.

As said in Darths thread the other night, the forum is a changing entity.

Whether that is a change too far, in this politically correct time, is a subject for greater debate.

My personal point - which needs no further proof than my statement here and now - is that threads of this nature bore the absolute tits off me but I HAVE to read them.  It does nothing for me personally, hence I seldom comment on them.....

[Dishevelled Den]

Whilst many in the membership ignore threads like this - which is fair enough, takes all sorts and all that - others find them interesting. (Including me)

I'm glad that Nick takes the time to highlight matters which, if ignored, may well have serious consequences for each and every one of us.

[cem_devecioglu]

Whilst many in the membership ignore threads like this - which is fair enough, takes all sorts and all that - others find them interesting. (Including me)

I'm glad that Nick takes the time to highlight matters which, if ignored, may well have serious consequences for each and every one of us.

count me in also..

[hotel21]

Whilst many in the membership ignore threads like this - which is fair enough, takes all sorts and all that - others find them interesting. (Including me)

I'm glad that Nick takes the time to highlight matters which, if ignored, may well have serious consequences for each and every one of us.

I concede to you point of view Z but would counter by saying.

This is a car forum which has a gendiss section where any and all subjects are a welcome discussion piece.

When that section regularly (dare I say repeatedly?) gets threads about a subject that only perhaps the same 4 posters reply on, chapter and verse, without any sign of swavering opinions (other than this one, initially....) is that condusive to the overall health of the forum?

My very personal opinion (and not that of an admin) is that climate change has been done to absolute death on here and its time for the combattants to retire to their respective corners and try to come up with something new and appealling to discuss....   

[cem_devecioglu]

I can understand the admins , the nature of those debate threads can easy turn to headaches but we must accept one fact that when the fight starts  it takes the highest ratings of all times..   I remember from past some threads continued for more than 30 pages  and sometimes continues with childish races , but it was a pleasure imo..