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[damon80]

Just as a heads-up, if anyone interested in mining fancies a day out...

Spent the day at the National Coal Mining Museum today, between Huddersfield and Wakey.

Cracking day out, great exhibits, and a superb trip down the mine shaft to the old seams.

Thoroughly enjoyed it - the majority of my ancestors (being a Wiganer) were miners, and just experiencing some of the conditions they worked in day-in, day-out, really brought it home how easy we have it these days.

It doesn't cost a penny, but any donations are greatly appreciated - even if it's only a quid or so.

If ever you have a day free, I can strongly recommend it 

[Vamps]

Just as a heads-up, if anyone interested in mining fancies a day out...

Spent the day at the National Coal Mining Museum today, between Huddersfield and Wakey.

Cracking day out, great exhibits, and a superb trip down the mine shaft to the old seams.

Thoroughly enjoyed it - the majority of my ancestors (being a Wiganer) were miners, and just experiencing some of the conditions they worked in day-in, day-out, really brought it home how easy we have it these days.

It doesn't cost a penny, but any donations are greatly appreciated - even if it's only a quid or so.

If ever you have a day free, I can strongly recommend it 

Cracking   just what we need now, experienced miners, time we got digging again, before the skills are lost.....

[Seth]

Just as a heads-up, if anyone interested in mining fancies a day out...

Spent the day at the National Coal Mining Museum today, between Huddersfield and Wakey.

Cracking day out, great exhibits, and a superb trip down the mine shaft to the old seams.

Thoroughly enjoyed it - the majority of my ancestors (being a Wiganer) were miners, and just experiencing some of the conditions they worked in day-in, day-out, really brought it home how easy we have it these days.

It doesn't cost a penny, but any donations are greatly appreciated - even if it's only a quid or so.

If ever you have a day free, I can strongly recommend it 

This sounds good!
Wouldn't mind taking the two 'little fellas' when we're up that way, so they can see what their great grandparents did for a living

[damon80]

Just as a heads-up, if anyone interested in mining fancies a day out...

Spent the day at the National Coal Mining Museum today, between Huddersfield and Wakey.

Cracking day out, great exhibits, and a superb trip down the mine shaft to the old seams.

Thoroughly enjoyed it - the majority of my ancestors (being a Wiganer) were miners, and just experiencing some of the conditions they worked in day-in, day-out, really brought it home how easy we have it these days.

It doesn't cost a penny, but any donations are greatly appreciated - even if it's only a quid or so.

If ever you have a day free, I can strongly recommend it 

Cracking   just what we need now, experienced miners, time we got digging again, before the skills are lost.....

Funny you should say that Vamps...

I got a souvenier (sp) piece of coal, which was dug out on the "night shift" last night - apparently, they do coal mining on a small scale at night, to make some educational rooms on the seam.

I have permission to shoot over a few farms in Lancs and surrounding areas, and on one of the farms, part of the land was set aside for open-cast mining "back in the day".  Mining has long since stopped there, but when I first started shooting over that land, I remember the farmer telling me that the pits were closed because of a conspiracy, but that there is plenty coal left... 

My Grandfathers  - on both sides - had mined all their lives, and both retired in the early 80's (before the NUM strikes of 84-85).  But that's by-the-by, in the wider sense of things... (that was the driver for me going to the museum in the first place, so I could get a grasp of what kind of conditions they had to endure on a daily basis...)

The chap who took us on the tour confirmed what I'd thought, and what the farmer had said - there was still plenty of coal left underground (heck, this morning, I came face-to-face with a coal face, and can certainly confirm that!), and that the pits were closed prematurely.

The main reason - the "green" Agenda.

[damon80]

Now, we come to the beefy bit.  After the War (WW2), the Germans worked with us on "Clean Burn" technologies which meant all the pollutants from a coal-fired Power Station are safely contained.

But, the oil firms bought the patent to them, and destroyed them (not like they had a hidden agenda, obviously...  )

That leave us with 4 choices:
Nuclear - given the current issues in Japan, that highlights why it's a no-go...
Water/Hydro-electric - our tides aren't strong enough
Wind - Nice "gimmick", and a nod to the Green Agenda, but not reliable, and stupidly high expenditure for very little power
Oil/Gas Feulled - prices linked to world affairs...

The chap who led our tour today confirmed my theory, and also said that in that pit alone, if they were to open a coal-fired station (with the necessary clean-burn stuff), they could power it easily for 100yrs. 

Further to that, a massive coal field has recently been discovered in Devon/Cornwall, which is so thick, scientific estimates say it could provide us with power for 1,000 years!!!

My point is - once the reliance on oil for power/electricity reduces, and we start to rely again on our own resources (i.e. coal), then energy costs will reduce,

Fuel prices will reduce,

And then happen this bunch of f**kwits in Parliament will stop sending our boys in to fight wars which aren't ours, all because of oil!!     

[damon80]

Just as a heads-up, if anyone interested in mining fancies a day out...

Spent the day at the National Coal Mining Museum today, between Huddersfield and Wakey.

Cracking day out, great exhibits, and a superb trip down the mine shaft to the old seams.

Thoroughly enjoyed it - the majority of my ancestors (being a Wiganer) were miners, and just experiencing some of the conditions they worked in day-in, day-out, really brought it home how easy we have it these days.

It doesn't cost a penny, but any donations are greatly appreciated - even if it's only a quid or so.

If ever you have a day free, I can strongly recommend it 

This sounds good!
Wouldn't mind taking the two 'little fellas' when we're up that way, so they can see what their great grandparents did for a living

As long as they ain't too young Sethsmate - think it's about 6yrs+ minimum before they let them down the pit   And it wouldn't be recommended for claustrophobics!   

[aaronjb]

Now, we come to the beefy bit.  After the War (WW2), the Germans worked with us on "Clean Burn" technologies which meant all the pollutants from a coal-fired Power Station are safely contained.

But, the oil firms bought the patent to them, and destroyed them (not like they had a hidden agenda, obviously...  )

That leave us with 4 choices:
Nuclear - given the current issues in Japan, that highlights why it's a no-go...
Water/Hydro-electric - our tides aren't strong enough
Wind - Nice "gimmick", and a nod to the Green Agenda, but not reliable, and stupidly high expenditure for very little power
Oil/Gas Feulled - prices linked to world affairs...

The chap who led our tour today confirmed my theory, and also said that in that pit alone, if they were to open a coal-fired station (with the necessary clean-burn stuff), they could power it easily for 100yrs. 

Further to that, a massive coal field has recently been discovered in Devon/Cornwall, which is so thick, scientific estimates say it could provide us with power for 1,000 years!!!

My point is - once the reliance on oil for power/electricity reduces, and we start to rely again on our own resources (i.e. coal), then energy costs will reduce,

Fuel prices will reduce,

And then happen this bunch of f**kwits in Parliament will stop sending our boys in to fight wars which aren't ours, all because of oil!!     

On nuclear - far from it! It illustrates precisely why it's a lot safer than all the doom-sayers would have people believe.. unfortunately you have to get past the quagmire of sensationalist "OMFG IT'S CHERNOBYL 2 EVERYONE IS GOING TO DIE!" journalism to see that.

[hercules]

Just as a heads-up, if anyone interested in mining fancies a day out...

Spent the day at the National Coal Mining Museum today, between Huddersfield and Wakey.

Cracking day out, great exhibits, and a superb trip down the mine shaft to the old seams.

Thoroughly enjoyed it - the majority of my ancestors (being a Wiganer) were miners, and just experiencing some of the conditions they worked in day-in, day-out, really brought it home how easy we have it these days.

It doesn't cost a penny, but any donations are greatly appreciated - even if it's only a quid or so.

If ever you have a day free, I can strongly recommend it 

This sounds good!
Wouldn't mind taking the two 'little fellas' when we're up that way, so they can see what their great grandparents did for a living

As long as they ain't too young Sethsmate - think it's about 6yrs+ minimum before they let them down the pit   And it wouldn't be recommended for claustrophobics!   

i think its 5 damon,i only live about 5 miles from it and was gonna take my brood the other week and iirc i could of only taken one of them

[damon80]

Just as a heads-up, if anyone interested in mining fancies a day out...

Spent the day at the National Coal Mining Museum today, between Huddersfield and Wakey.

Cracking day out, great exhibits, and a superb trip down the mine shaft to the old seams.

Thoroughly enjoyed it - the majority of my ancestors (being a Wiganer) were miners, and just experiencing some of the conditions they worked in day-in, day-out, really brought it home how easy we have it these days.

It doesn't cost a penny, but any donations are greatly appreciated - even if it's only a quid or so.

If ever you have a day free, I can strongly recommend it 

This sounds good!
Wouldn't mind taking the two 'little fellas' when we're up that way, so they can see what their great grandparents did for a living

As long as they ain't too young Sethsmate - think it's about 6yrs+ minimum before they let them down the pit   And it wouldn't be recommended for claustrophobics!   

i think its 5 damon,i only live about 5 miles from it and was gonna take my brood the other week and iirc i could of only taken one of them

Cheers for the clarification on the age Hurcules 

Cracking part of the world you live in up there 

[Mysteryman]

I live in Wakefield and I've never been.

[hercules]

Just as a heads-up, if anyone interested in mining fancies a day out...

Spent the day at the National Coal Mining Museum today, between Huddersfield and Wakey.

Cracking day out, great exhibits, and a superb trip down the mine shaft to the old seams.

Thoroughly enjoyed it - the majority of my ancestors (being a Wiganer) were miners, and just experiencing some of the conditions they worked in day-in, day-out, really brought it home how easy we have it these days.

It doesn't cost a penny, but any donations are greatly appreciated - even if it's only a quid or so.

If ever you have a day free, I can strongly recommend it 

This sounds good!
Wouldn't mind taking the two 'little fellas' when we're up that way, so they can see what their great grandparents did for a living

As long as they ain't too young Sethsmate - think it's about 6yrs+ minimum before they let them down the pit   And it wouldn't be recommended for claustrophobics!   

i think its 5 damon,i only live about 5 miles from it and was gonna take my brood the other week and iirc i could of only taken one of them

Cheers for the clarification on the age Hurcules 

Cracking part of the world you live in up there 

:yits got its dumps but there is some really nice green spots and you can at times think your out in the countryside and away from it all

[hercules]

I live in Wakefield and I've never been.

get yer sen up there and dig deep

pardon the pun