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Lizzie_Zoom

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Sign Writing & Advertising - A lost Art
« on: 19 March 2011, 13:01:25 »

I have posted a version of this on the Bus Nostalgia thread, but for those not interested in buses and coaches, I thought I would start a separate thread on this subject, which one way and another has affected our lives, even if you are young, old, or in-between! :D :D

Sign written advertisements were once part of our childhood; a wonderful form of artwork that fascinated certainly my young mind and has stayed with me ever since.

The enamel signs that still adorned so many railway walls, fences, chimneys, in fact everywhere you looked.  No tatty paper, short term advertisements then, but long term statements of intent - we have a great product - it is quality - you should buy it, and it is here for good like our enamel sign!

In my early years in retailing, in the newsagent, confectioners and tobacco trade, quality advertisements for "Player's Senior Service", or "Weights Tipped", and Capstan Full Strength" cigarettes were still everywhere.  Even confectionery could still be found in jars and tins; I still have a Squirrel's Confectionery tin that contained Floral Gums (mmmmmmmmm!!), which inside the lid proudly, permanently, states "Squirrel Confections" made by The Squirrel Confectionery Co. Ltd., Stockport, England

Although a container for use once, it was permanent; it reflected a society that was not going to change!  It was there; British society, safe, stable, reliable, of quality, and permanent!!  So were the enamel signs, and the other handwritten ones on the sides of the buses and coaches we have been reviewing.  It was all quality, and then of course it was legal to advertise tobacco products, so with the vast majority of the population then smokers in some form or another, they were advertised everywhere!

To remind me of what we had then I have pictures in my many treasured railway books which show the "Virol" , "Castings West Yorkshire Foundries Ltd.", "Mackinlay's Scotch Whiskey", Drink Camp It's the best", "Sunlight Soap", "Player's Please!", and many more enamel advertising signs of a past golden age on railway walls of every description!  Yes, the huge advertising hoardings were starting to reflect the "new" products of the exciting, different, age of the late 1950s and 1960s, with the paper-on advertisements.  But the old enamel signs were still there, and the signwritten ones specifically for the sides of buses, above shop windows, and along the front of Pickford's and the like, were still reflecting another old skill, trade, that now, like so many of the products advertised, have gone.  Swept aside by cheaper, international brands in a world were things do not need to last; so reflects the advertising hoardings with flimsy paper adverts, with no need for long term sign written forms!  Quality, gone; longevity, gone; the skills and trades that went with them, gone!

Our brave new world has pushed aside the signwriters and enamel sign makers, with computer generated graphics doing everything far cheaper.  But is it what we really love?  History will tell!  ;)
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« Reply #1 on: 19 March 2011, 14:44:03 »

...............and to remind you all of the type of signs involved that were still around in the 50s that I particularly loved!!











and of course the Brand on the side of the bus in the Bus Nostalgia thread




...........and how it was on the side, top end, of horse drawn London Omnibuses (well before I was born!!! :D :D)




If you would like to take a trip down memory lane, or to a time before you were born, I recommend you look at this site:

http://images.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&source=hp&biw=1024&bih=476&q=Railway+Enamel+Advertising+Signs&btnG=Search+Images&gbv=2&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=


 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) :y :y
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« Reply #2 on: 19 March 2011, 19:15:01 »

That remind me Lizzie ,with the price of petrol it may be back to the horse and cart ,
nostalgia wonderful  :( ::)
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« Reply #3 on: 19 March 2011, 19:21:07 »

Well of course the art of signwriting is dead. Companies have the telly and internet to showcase their wares nowadays.

If we're not careful, buses and trains will replace the stagecoach as well.

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« Reply #4 on: 19 March 2011, 20:47:47 »

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Well of course the art of signwriting is dead. Companies have the telly and internet to showcase their wares nowadays.

If we're not careful, buses and trains will replace the stagecoach as well.

are you suggesting one day steve we will all own our own means of transportation ie car and have no need for said horse drawn vehicle ::)
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« Reply #5 on: 19 March 2011, 20:51:55 »

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Well of course the art of signwriting is dead. Companies have the telly and internet to showcase their wares nowadays.

If we're not careful, buses and trains will replace the stagecoach as well.

are you suggesting one day steve we will all own our own means of transportation ie car and have no need for said horse drawn vehicle ::)


No H, because Steve has realised we are all going back to the future and the expensive to run, hard to fuel, vehicles of today will be replaced by the very futuristic method of using horse drawn vehicles, which are sooo green and can run on recycled food! :P :P :P ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
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« Reply #6 on: 19 March 2011, 20:57:34 »

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Well of course the art of signwriting is dead. Companies have the telly and internet to showcase their wares nowadays.

If we're not careful, buses and trains will replace the stagecoach as well.

are you suggesting one day steve we will all own our own means of transportation ie car and have no need for said horse drawn vehicle ::)


No H, because Steve has realised we are all going back to the future and the expensive to run, hard to fuel, vehicles of today will be replaced by the very futuristic method of using horse drawn vehicles, which are sooo green and can run on recycled food! :P :P :P ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
hence why this year i shall be using a baby from said animal and using shanks,s pony ;D
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« Reply #7 on: 19 March 2011, 21:05:42 »

on a serious note lz yes i love old signs and adverts there was time put into them and it showed,nowadays a woman runs through a hall draped in silk and a goose flys over her head while a piano on fire still plays a tune to a soldier smashing through a window holding a round box and inside that box is a glass bottle and in that bottle is a message that says HAD A TRIP OR FALL AT HOME OR AT WORK THEN CALL THE NATIONAL HELPDESK haha that actually sounds pretty cool,no its rubbish
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« Reply #8 on: 20 March 2011, 09:23:23 »

Yes H, totally different than a Pears Soap enamel sign.  Straightforward, simple message, and permanent! 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)

How many TV adverts, which of course reach a far bigger audience in one go than the Pears Soap signs ever could, give you a lasting message that lasts in your head?  Some do, but as in the case of the example you describe, how many do we even understand, that give a clear message on the product and what it can do? :-/ :-/

So many I certainly forget very quickly, and what the real message was...............well that could be anyones guess! :D :D :D
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« Reply #9 on: 20 March 2011, 09:26:34 »

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Yes H, totally different than a Pears Soap enamel sign.  Straightforward, simple message, and permanent! 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)

How many TV adverts, which of course reach a far bigger audience in one go than the Pears Soap signs ever could, give you a lasting message that lasts in your head?  Some do, but as in the case of the example you describe, how many do we even understand, that give a clear message on the product and what it can do? :-/ :-/

So many I certainly forget very quickly, and what the real message was...............well that could be anyones guess! :D :D :D


Yes. But that has very little to do with the advert and more to do with your age. ;D ;D
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« Reply #10 on: 20 March 2011, 09:27:57 »

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Yes H, totally different than a Pears Soap enamel sign.  Straightforward, simple message, and permanent! 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)

How many TV adverts, which of course reach a far bigger audience in one go than the Pears Soap signs ever could, give you a lasting message that lasts in your head?  Some do, but as in the case of the example you describe, how many do we even understand, that give a clear message on the product and what it can do? :-/ :-/

So many I certainly forget very quickly, and what the real message was...............well that could be anyones guess! :D :D :D


Yes. But that has very little to do with the advert and more to do with your age. ;D ;D



But I am not that old Steve! ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
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« Reply #11 on: 20 March 2011, 09:30:52 »

All say ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!! :D :D :D :-* :-* :-*






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« Reply #12 on: 20 March 2011, 09:37:13 »

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All say ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!! :D :D :D :-* :-* :-*





I know we're skint but bubbles for dinner? Kinnel.



Right. Let's see how long this little bastaard can hold it's breath.
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« Reply #13 on: 20 March 2011, 09:44:18 »

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All say ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!! :D :D :D :-* :-* :-*





I know we're skint but bubbles for dinner? Kinnel.



Right. Let's see how long this little bastaard can hold it's breath.


Trust you!! ::) ::) ::)
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« Reply #14 on: 20 March 2011, 10:24:04 »

Looking at that St.Julien advert for cigarettes - i had no idea how open victorian society was to homosexuality  ;D
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