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[Webby the Bear]

I will need a bit more convincing Nick.Thus far I have her pegged as being a tad brainless. I hope Im proved wrong though. :-/

with a great set don't forget 

[Nickbat]

...it's the same in life, just bigger stage and stakes. Clique you might say. There may not be an envelope as such but it amounts to the same thing.


Don't agree with it though, so never quite fit into the round hole with whatever shaped peg you're looking for... Never! 

... And is why Palin will not fit in to a Majority, a camp, a group with that Honesty above all else approach. Forget it, no chance. And is why politics is flawed from the very outset, the moment it becomes a reality it instantly turns to bull shit in the exact same step.

The only step being of any success is purely a selfish one for the individual or the individuals group/clique/party/cronies whatever.

With an idealist hat on I think a Female leader could have great qualities sadly lacking in power circles for so long. Let's hope though aye. 

not trying to be argumentative nick, honestly, but how ironic for an american glamorous politician to be talking about the harshness of capitalism. just takes the piss really.

No argument, Webby, just discussion! 

I think the point is we need (throughout the West) leaders who are genuinely patriotic - I know that is a taboo word, these days, but I still believe in the concept. We need leaders who really want their country, or constituency, to do well, regardless of their own personal agrandissement. Yes, Palin is glamourous, but that is a personal trait and , hopefully, not connected with her politics.

As I say, just a discussion.   

[Webby the Bear]

...it's the same in life, just bigger stage and stakes. Clique you might say. There may not be an envelope as such but it amounts to the same thing.


Don't agree with it though, so never quite fit into the round hole with whatever shaped peg you're looking for... Never! 

... And is why Palin will not fit in to a Majority, a camp, a group with that Honesty above all else approach. Forget it, no chance. And is why politics is flawed from the very outset, the moment it becomes a reality it instantly turns to bull shit in the exact same step.

The only step being of any success is purely a selfish one for the individual or the individuals group/clique/party/cronies whatever.

With an idealist hat on I think a Female leader could have great qualities sadly lacking in power circles for so long. Let's hope though aye. 

not trying to be argumentative nick, honestly, but how ironic for an american glamorous politician to be talking about the harshness of capitalism. just takes the piss really.

No argument, Webby, just discussion!  I think the point is we need (throughout the West) leaders who are genuinely patriotic - I know that is a taboo word, these days, but I still believe in the concept. We need leaders who really want their country, or constituency, to do well, regardless of their own personal agrandissement. Yes, Palin is glamourous, but that is a personal trait and , hopefully, not connected with her politics.

As I say, just a discussion.   

defo mate!!! 

[Nickbat]

defo mate!!! 

Good lad! I'm going to sleep on it, now. G'night! 

[Webby the Bear]

defo mate!!! 

Good lad! I'm going to sleep on it, now. G'night! 

 haha me too. good night everyone. love yuo all 

[Martin_1962]

I am afraid  when it comes to that woman that she has spouted so much crap so far that if she said the grass was green I would have to check it.

[Nickbat]

I am afraid  when it comes to that woman that she has spouted so much crap so far that if she said the grass was green I would have to check it.

Examples, Martin?  :-?

[Martin_1962]

I am afraid  when it comes to that woman that she has spouted so much crap so far that if she said the grass was green I would have to check it.

Examples, Martin?  :-?

There are many - start with this

http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/sarahpalin/a/palin-top-10.htm

http://www.thelangreport.com/religion-or-lack-of/sarah-palin-wants-creationism-taught-in-school/

[albitz]

I dont believe that schools should teach anything as fact regarding the origins of life and the universe. There are no facts, no-one actually knows. There are various theories and scientific evidence can point us in  a particualr direction at a particular time, but there are no facts.

[Nickbat]

Most of those are picking up on gaffes that all politicians (and all normal people) make from time to time, such as the reference in a live interview to North Korea when she meant South Korea. The interviewer corrected her straight away and she acknowledged the mis-speak. I notice Obama once stated that there were 57 states in the US.

She's gone from a small-town councillor to small-town mayor, a state oil & gas commissioner to state governor, to vice-presidential candidate in a little over fifteen years. She's not dumb and, yes, she makes slip-ups. Her policies may not be to everyone's taste, but hey that's politics.

The Left have it in for Palin. That alone will make her likely win next time round as the American public is tending towards the Right post-Obama.    

[Nickbat]

I dont believe that schools should teach anything as fact regarding the origins of life and the universe. There are no facts, no-one actually knows. There are various theories and scientific evidence can point us in  a particualr direction at a particular time, but there are no facts.

The volatile issue of teaching creation science in public schools popped up in the Alaska governor’s race this week when Republican Sarah Palin said she thinks creationism should be taught alongside evolution in the state’s public classrooms. Palin was answering a question from the moderator when she said, “Teach both. You know, don’t be afraid of information. Healthy debate is so important, and it’s so valuable in our schools. I am a proponent of teaching both.”

In an interview, Palin said she meant only to say that discussion of alternative views should be allowed to arise in Alaska classrooms: “I don’t think there should be a prohibition against debate if it comes up in class. It doesn’t have to be part of the curriculum.” She added that, if elected, she would not push the state Board of Education to add such creation-based alternatives to the state’s required curriculum. “I won’t have religion as a litmus test, or anybody’s personal opinion on evolution or creationism,” Palin said.

I can't argue with her view. RE is taught alongside science in UK schools. Where's the beef?  :-?

[albitz]

I agree. Imo it should be taught as - "some people believe this is how it happened, other people believe it happened like this"..........

[Martin_1962]

I dont believe that schools should teach anything as fact regarding the origins of life and the universe. There are no facts, no-one actually knows. There are various theories and scientific evidence can point us in  a particualr direction at a particular time, but there are no facts.

The volatile issue of teaching creation science in public schools popped up in the Alaska governor’s race this week when Republican Sarah Palin said she thinks creationism should be taught alongside evolution in the state’s public classrooms. Palin was answering a question from the moderator when she said, “Teach both. You know, don’t be afraid of information. Healthy debate is so important, and it’s so valuable in our schools. I am a proponent of teaching both.”

In an interview, Palin said she meant only to say that discussion of alternative views should be allowed to arise in Alaska classrooms: “I don’t think there should be a prohibition against debate if it comes up in class. It doesn’t have to be part of the curriculum.” She added that, if elected, she would not push the state Board of Education to add such creation-based alternatives to the state’s required curriculum. “I won’t have religion as a litmus test, or anybody’s personal opinion on evolution or creationism,” Palin said.

I can't argue with her view. RE is taught alongside science in UK schools. Where's the beef?  :-?

They are on about teaching RE as science.

Still think she is a nutcase anyway.

[Martin_1962]

I agree. Imo it should be taught as - "some people believe this is how it happened, other people believe it happened like this"..........

A few people think it happened like this, large numbers of scientists have proved it happened like this.

[tunnie]

"If God had not intended for us to eat animals, how come He made them out of meat?”

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/11/palins-book-sparks-republican-war-on-vegetarians.html