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[Varche]

Or not..........

I have been following this with mixed feelings. Sure the planning laws need to be respected and upheld but local authorities have a responsibility in law to provide sites. Here we have a group of travellers willing to "put down roots" have their kids educated at the same school and so on. Half the site is legal.

Maybe it would have been better to spend the ten years worth of taxpayers money, used in persuing the case through umpteen courts, on some screening, better on site facilities etc.

Just a thought

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2032800/Dale-Farm-eviction-Travellers-plan-use-children-human-shields.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

[cleggy]

They broke the law, if any of us broke planning permission laws our property would be demolished rather quicker than the 10 years it has taken to move these pikeys on
Send in the bull dozers now, and if anyone gets in the way tough!
I am sure the local law abiding residents of that area have suffered enough, and they the 'Travellers' should be made to pay all the costs of removal by the forced sale of their rather expensive vehicles.
I have no sympathy with these people whatsoever
If they are travellers why don't they travel?

[albitz]

A group of parasites who have declared themselves travellers because travellers are a protected/ minority species.
They put nothing into society in the way of taxes (or in any other way) and grab everything their lawyers/lobbyists/ naive celebrity friends can get for them.
They mostly come from Limerick and theres two reasons why they arent there.
1.The people in Limerick know them only too well and are wise too their habits (they are not in any sense the old fashioned Irish travelling gypsys who used to work on the land etc.)
2. They knew that the Labour Govt. were gullible as hell and would give in to their every whim and demand.
They are now finding life after new labour isnt to their liking so are squealing like pigs.The people who live near them are sick and tired of the crime/threats of violence and murder/ ther gardens being used as rubbish tips and toilets......
They have stated that it will take the army to shift them. Good, send in the army.It will be practise for them.
Where should they go ? Vannessa Redgraves garden. Im sure she wont mind.
She can then spend her time justifying the fact that the local churches have lost the lead from their roofs, the local vans and 4x4,s have had their cats removed in the night,the local railway has had all the copper cable pinched, and road users are in danger of being killed due to the manhole covers being stolen in the hours of darkness.
As you might have guessed - Im not keen.

[blackviper90210]

A group of parasites who have declared themselves travellers because travellers are a protected/ minority species.
They put nothing into society in the way of taxes (or in any other way) and grab everything their lawyers/lobbyists/ naive celebrity friends can get for them.
They mostly come from Limerick and theres two reasons why they arent there.
1.The people in Limerick know them only too well and are wise too their habits (they are not in any sense the old fashioned Irish travelling gypsys who used to work on the land etc.)
2. They knew that the Labour Govt. were gullible as hell and would give in to their every whim and demand.
They are now finding life after new labour isnt to their liking so are squealing like pigs.The people who live near them are sick and tired of the crime/threats of violence and murder/ ther gardens being used as rubbish tips and toilets......
They have stated that it will take the army to shift them. Good, send in the army.It will be practise for them.
Where should they go ? Vannessa Redgraves garden. Im sure she wont mind.
She can then spend her time justifying the fact that the local churches have lost the lead from their roofs, the local vans and 4x4,s have had their cats removed in the night,the local railway has had all the copper cable pinched, and road users are in danger of being killed due to the manhole covers being stolen in the hours of darkness.
As you might have guessed - Im not keen.

You should lead the UKIP!!

I'm right with you buddy! 

[Lioned]

It is not usually good practice to 'tar them all with the same brush' but in the case of this so called ethnic group i am pretty sure you can get away with it with some degree of accuracy.The vast majority of them are lawless thieves who contribute nothing but fear to the local community and beyond.
Its a pretty good bet that most ,if not all,dont pay tax,National Insurance etc.
This particular lot,who dont seem to actually be 'travellers' anymore as they have apparently been there ten years i dont know much about.Those that arrive in our area from time to time have dirty kids who terrorise the shop keepers and their dads dont know how to lay brick pavings properly either.

[Sir Tigger KC]

The law of the land should apply to EVERYONE regardless of colour, creed, culture, sexual orientation, political beliefs etc etc etc

If I bought a bit of land and built on it without planning permission, do you think it would take them 10 years to move me on?? I don't think so!!! 

[albitz]

The reason they buy green belt land is that its very cheap to buy as your not allowed to build on it. Then they do just that.
They are also usually quite wealthy people. Their weddings for example are known to cost many thousands of pounds.
They often have nice new Mercs. etc parked at the back of their caravans.
I dont mind anyone wanting to live outside of society for whatever reason, but they should not be able to take anything from society if they put nothing into it.

[Debs.]

  These dairy companies........



......have they no shame?!?!

[alfie]

Watching this drama on the news,WHERE are the men,the only bloke there was a do good-er,stating that the UN was backing the pikeys.

[jonnycool]

A group of parasites who have declared themselves travellers because travellers are a protected/ minority species.
They put nothing into society in the way of taxes (or in any other way) and grab everything their lawyers/lobbyists/ naive celebrity friends can get for them.
They mostly come from Limerick and theres two reasons why they arent there.
1.The people in Limerick know them only too well and are wise too their habits (they are not in any sense the old fashioned Irish travelling gypsys who used to work on the land etc.)
2. They knew that the Labour Govt. were gullible as hell and would give in to their every whim and demand.
They are now finding life after new labour isnt to their liking so are squealing like pigs.The people who live near them are sick and tired of the crime/threats of violence and murder/ ther gardens being used as rubbish tips and toilets......
They have stated that it will take the army to shift them. Good, send in the army.It will be practise for them.
Where should they go ? Vannessa Redgraves garden. Im sure she wont mind.
She can then spend her time justifying the fact that the local churches have lost the lead from their roofs, the local vans and 4x4,s have had their cats removed in the night,the local railway has had all the copper cable pinched, and road users are in danger of being killed due to the manhole covers being stolen in the hours of darkness.
As you might have guessed - Im not keen.

Yep, agree with everything there - we have had them living around here at various times and they are nothing but thieves and thugs. I'm not that keen either

[albitz]

Watching this drama on the news,WHERE are the men,the only bloke there was a do good-er,stating that the UN was backing the pikeys.

Good point.Plenty of women and children parading for the cameras, but the men seem to be very camera shy. Cant imagine why.
Btw - every one of the families has been offered a council house by Basildon council. Not one of them has accepted. Could it be something to do with the fact that they would have to pay rent, council tax,electric,gas etc.....just like the rest of us.

[DaveA]

Watching this drama on the news,WHERE are the men,the only bloke there was a do good-er,stating that the UN was backing the pikeys.

Yes, I notice that, maybe  ::)they are aiming for the sympathy vote, like Redgrave and other Looneys

[tidla]

thought it was quite on oof. i know the lakes are nice an all that...

[albitz]

http://news.aol.co.uk/politics-news/story/gypsy-chief-asked-for-a-6m-sale/1918011?icid=maing-grid7%7Cuk%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk2%7C76875

 

[Amigo]

I sympathize with them to a degree but the same law applies to us all includung planning permission. They should accept the local authority housing they've been offered, sell the land & use the proceeds to find land they can legally settle on. I listened to the Redgrave/Vine interview recently & nothing the poor deluded woman said was worthy of a reply.

   Just a thought but these folk have been offered & declined council housing. I wonder how long the waiting list is for non travelling hard working families who can't afford to buy & would love to leave B&B's., hostels, etc is? :-/