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[Marks DTM Calib]

Yep, use it or loose it.

I actually rarely reply to threads about 'shite' handbrakes on auto cars now....as I have zero sympathy any more.

Be prepared for rear wheel bearing failure in the next 1000 miles then as when the brakes get very hot they boil the grease.

[Andy B]

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Be prepared for rear wheel bearing failure in the next 1000 miles then as when the brakes get very hot they boil the grease.

The thought had crossed my mind, although I did't actually touch anything, the smell was enough to suggest that they were HOT!!!  The rear brakes on it are standard type drums, I suppose that when we get back from holiday I'll have to at least have a look inside. I've some moly grease in the garage somewhere.   

[shammster]

It's never occured to me not to use the handbrake because its an auto.
At last a bad habit i DON'T have 

[Andy B]

It's never occured to me not to use the handbrake because its an auto.
At last a bad habit i DON'T have 

Where's your car going to go with it in Park?  :-?

[shammster]

Nowhere!
Just one of these extra security things, it don't have to make sense 

[Jimbob]

If you swap between autos / manuals well worth always using as well, saves forgetting in the wrong car 


sure ive heard somewhere, if a car hits yours while parked, it can snap part of the gearbox, leaving no brake.....using the handbrake at least your hit car will be where you left it.

[shammster]

And I do drive manuals as well.
It's the parking pawl that gets snapped, loose metal in the box, not good!

[Kevin Wood]

And I do drive manuals as well.
It's the parking pawl that gets snapped, loose metal in the box, not good!

The parking pawl being a little key about 4mm across that slots into the output shaft IIRC. Not much to hold 1800 Kg of car.

Also, using Park as a brake means there is a load of torque on the drivetrain. I have a theory that this can distort the rubber doughnut coupling on the end of the propshaft. There is certainly vibration from the drivetrain on my car in the morning if it's left on my slightly sloping driveway in "P". I now ensure the handbrake is holding the car in "N" before putting it into "P" and no problems recently.

Kevin

[Jimbob]

And I do drive manuals as well.
It's the parking pawl that gets snapped, loose metal in the box, not good!

The parking pawl being a little key about 4mm across that slots into the output shaft IIRC. Not much to hold 1800 Kg of car.

Also, using Park as a brake means there is a load of torque on the drivetrain. I have a theory that this can distort the rubber doughnut coupling on the end of the propshaft. There is certainly vibration from the drivetrain on my car in the morning if it's left on my slightly sloping driveway in "P". I now ensure the handbrake is holding the car in "N" before putting it into "P" and no problems recently.

Kevin

Interesting, I reckon I go into park, then handbrake....

I'll see if I can adjust to the other way 

[shammster]

Not sure which way around I do it, not a conscious action!

[KillerWatt]

sure ive heard somewhere, if a car hits yours while parked, it can snap part of the gearbox, leaving no brake.....using the handbrake at least your hit car will be where you left it.

If another car hits mine while I'm parked up, the gearbox can go & f*ck itself because the pound signs will be rolling by the time I'm finished filling in the paperwork.


PS

In fact, the whole car can go f*ck itself if somebody hits it while it's parked.

[Del Boy]

should be ok .if it was  on full she wunt ave been able to ave moved the car? Hope it turns out ok anyway andy

I always thought that, until I was doing 80 in my van handbrake fully up  it was awful on there adjusted now .

[Jimbob]

sure ive heard somewhere, if a car hits yours while parked, it can snap part of the gearbox, leaving no brake.....using the handbrake at least your hit car will be where you left it.

If another car hits mine while I'm parked up, the gearbox can go & f*ck itself because the pound signs will be rolling by the time I'm finished filling in the paperwork.


PS

In fact, the whole car can go f*ck itself if somebody hits it while it's parked.

Not quite....you are liable for any damage YOUR car causes...
Admit you didnt put the parking brake on and fighting to pass the liability back to the party who hit you will be harder 

[KillerWatt]

Not quite....you are liable for any damage YOUR car causes...

So a TWOC'r hits my parked car up the jacksie at 70mph, which then causes my car to go through the neighbours front room and end up kiling them....and I'm responsible because I didn't put the handbrake on?

Get f**king real 

Liability ends up with the schmuck who wasn't paying attention in my world.

[Marks DTM Calib]

Not quite....you are liable for any damage YOUR car causes...

So a TWOC'r hits my parked car up the jacksie at 70mph, which then causes my car to go through the neighbours front room and end up kiling them....and I'm responsible because I didn't put the handbrake on?

Get f**king real 

Liability ends up with the schmuck who wasn't paying attention in my world.

Ultimate liability yes but, the insurance companies are known to go knock for knock on the costs of such incidents